38 Special Bullet Seat / Crimp??
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No. Do it like this one:
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Cell phone pictures aside, most DEWCs with which I am familiar are designed to to be crimped over the bevel, so no bullet is sticking out of the case. Some designs do have crimp grooves, however, and can be crimped either in the groove or over the bevel. I honestly cannot tell from your picture if that is what you have done. If your bullet does not have a crimp groove and you have tried to crimp the case into the side of the bullet, then no, it is not correct.
Say, is that a Lego in the background?
Say, is that a Lego in the background?
stodd - If you're using a digital camera, try the macro setting, it will be much clearer. If you're using a cell phone, take it farther away and blow it up with software. It will be a bit grainier (pixillated), but it will still be clearer than that. As it is now, anyone would be hard pressed to give an accurate opinion on the crimp.
Robert - was that a joke? (If so, it's a good one!)
Robert - was that a joke? (If so, it's a good one!)
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I never loaded FWC's (Full-Wad-Cutters).
I did find some pictures in Google which may help you!
I did find some pictures in Google which may help you!
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evan price
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OK, yo usee how your lead WC slug has a sort of taper on the end of it? The bullet should be pressed into the brass so that it is about flush with the end of the brass, and then the case roll crimps into the taper on the end.
evan, if he is using the particular double ended wadcutter I think he is using (similar to the 148 gr. Hornady DEWC), then he should be crimping in the cannelure about 1/8" below the end. Unlike other wadcutters, those don't take the crimp at the end.
The photo is too fuzzy to see how much crimp there is into the cannelure. It doesn't look like enough to me - not sure.
If you get that round loaded just right, it is very accurate for target practice. It is also a real powder saver. I use 3.4 gr. of AA#2. It's one of my all time favorite target loads.
The photo is too fuzzy to see how much crimp there is into the cannelure. It doesn't look like enough to me - not sure.
If you get that round loaded just right, it is very accurate for target practice. It is also a real powder saver. I use 3.4 gr. of AA#2. It's one of my all time favorite target loads.
evan price
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To be honest, Mal, I can't even see a cannelure in that picture. 
JimKirk
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Cameras and lens, really the lens, have a minimum focus distance. Unless it has a macro setting, which some do, the lens will not focus at anything closer than the minimum focus distance. Look in your camera(lens) manual to find that distance.
Folks he is using the Missouri 148 grain Double Ended Wad Cutter Bevel Base , it does not seat flush with the brass like a full Hollow Base Wad Cutter. It is designed to be seated and crimped in the last crimp groove, so a small amount will stick out of the brass. Please look at the photo below and you'll see what I'm saying.
http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=62&category=5&secondary=9&keywords=
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Folks he is using the Missouri 148 grain Double Ended Wad Cutter Bevel Base , it does not seat flush with the brass like a full Hollow Base Wad Cutter. It is designed to be seated and crimped in the last crimp groove, so a small amount will stick out of the brass. Please look at the photo below and you'll see what I'm saying.
http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=62&category=5&secondary=9&keywords=
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Interesting thread as I've never had any luck with the big box of lead wadcutters I got from my dad. I've heard the 'load it flush', but these have a groove and look like the ones in 'Friendly, Don't Fires' post. I loaded them just like the one on the right and the accuracy is terrible. Maybe I'll try a couple of them with the bullet all of the way in like the S and B picture shows.
These wadcutters can be seated to any reasonable OAL and tapercrimped. I have seated HBWC to 1.29", 1.4", and 1.475". As long as velocities stay under 800 FPS and the gun is heavy enough, case tension alone will retain them in the case under recoil.
JimKirk - that is the style of bullet I think stodd is using, and the one I was talking about. As you said, it is normally roll crimped into the obvious crimping groove on either end.
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I seat the Missouri Bullet DEWC flush with a slight taper crimp. I've tried a slight roll crimp and it works well also. I'm loading for a S&W 52-2 and it really needs flush seating.
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