I saw that, got some starting points for the 380. Checked out the 9mm, (bought some of those also, 118gr Extreme Defense), the 9mm loads for Power pistol are quite light from my experience. I have been shooting 120gr Bayou Bullets, loaded @ 5.2gr for years and that is kind of middle road from data I got a while ago. Their max load is 5.2gr, 1020fps, (which matches right up with my 120gr lead bullets), not sure what to think on that. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to spend more time at the range!