.40S&W guys : which one ?

[JTQ]

This is by far the most informative articles I’ve ever read comparing the VP to the PPQ:

Walther PPQ M1 Classic versus Heckler & Koch HK VP9: High-Capacity Polymer-Frame, Striker-Fired Combat/Tactical 9mm Pistol Face-Off!

By David Crane david (at) defensereview (dot) com April 28, 2015 Last updated on 4/29/15. Speaking of polymer-frame, striker-fired combat/tactical 9mm (9mm Parabellum/9x19mm NATO) pistols, DefenseReview (DR) was curious to know how the Walther PPQ M1 Classic and Heckler & Koch HK VP9...

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Take away:

“The locking block area of the VP9 is clearly stamped and welded at the seams. The PPQ uses a solid, one piece machined locking block for their system.”

I personally found the PPQ to be a softer shooter than the VP9, and as soft as the M&P 2.0. Maybe the M&P locking block is solid too?

Interesting that they didn't address the tendency for both the VP and PPQ to drop their strikers, with a smack to the grip, such as an aggressive mag change, leaving a dead trigger.

 

[Anchorite]

Interesting that they didn't address the tendency for both the VP and PPQ to drop their strikers, with a smack to the grip, such as an aggressive mag change, leaving a dead trigger.

A fellow shooter who likes his Walther’s summed it up me like this, “I guess when a striker handgun is designed to beat a standard DAO by utilizing a pre-cocked system, something has to give. Is it enough to dissuade some? Sure. Everyone, no.”

Is It a weakness in the design? I suppose one could make the argument it is. But unless you’re making contact with it, I have trouble visualizing the scenario where this would come into play.

 

[Rubone]

Love my Springfield Armory XD40. Functions perfectly and never has issues. I used it in a class and fired 500+ rounds in 24 hours with no glitches at all.

 

[someguy2800]

I voted M&P but my top pick would be glock 22

 

[JTQ]

A fellow shooter who likes his Walther’s summed it up me like this, “I guess when a striker handgun is designed to beat a standard DAO by utilizing a pre-cocked system, something has to give. Is it enough to dissuade some? Sure. Everyone, no.”

Is It a weakness in the design? I suppose one could make the argument it is. But unless you’re making contact with it, I have trouble visualizing the scenario where this would come into play.

Perhaps it was enough of an issue that Walther discontinued the PPQ and brought out the PDP.

 

[Lo-Profile]

Of the ones listed the S&W would be my choice.

Only have owned 3 in my life.
A S&W 4006, a Glock 27 and a full size 1911.
Love the 1911 for range time.
The G27 is my Harley riding carry gun.
The 4006 I sold years ago for more than I paid for it.

 

[commygun]

. Just an all around / do all pistol in .40S&W .

That describes my M&P 40C to a T. Lightweight, compact, hand-filling, good sights, stone reliable, nice trigger, very manageable recoil, manual safety (I know, I know).

It’s my nightstand gun, IWB when I IWB, and a pussycat at the range. And it converts to 9mm with just a barrel and a magazine.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Can we please stay with the OP's question and not throw out individual favorites.

I don't mind if you add your favorite after choosing and then commenting on one of the three that he is asking for help with.

If folks can't follow that suggestion, I'll be deleting non-conforming responses without further warning

 

[W.E.G.]

The S&W

Probably the least expensive, and well-established reliable.

Use the $$$ you save to buy ammo.

Cost of ammo these days is nearly as large consideration as cost of gun.

Or use the saved $$$ to buy beer and tacos. The chances of getting a dud M&P are so low, you can pretty much vett an M&P with one box of ammo.

 

[Tallball]

I owned all three and prefer the Smith.

 

[tercel89]

All three of these guns were made around the .40S&W cartridge. The Cougar is $250 , the M&P 2.0 is $400 , and the PX4 is $419. I want the Cougar but magazines are hard to come by and exspensive . The M&P is nice but I'm getting tired of striker fired guns , and I dont care for a "fully cocked" striker like it . A partially cocked striker like a Glock is better for me.
So far I'm leaning towards the PX4 .

 

[sparkyfender]

The only one I have from your list is the Beretta Cougar. Good gun, but the grip is rather thick.
I usually carry a Sig 239 if I carry .40.

 

[The Night Rider]

You need an option for none of the above. I wouldn't mind an M&P 40 1.0

 

[tercel89]

Ok UPDATE: While going to get the Beretta PX4 , I came across a Glock 23 made in 2006 which still has the Tenifer treatement. This makes it darn near rust proof. I couldn't resist it as $300 and the internals showed almost not wear. I think it maybe had 300 rds through it at the most ! I got it ! You can't beat a true Tenifer Glock with the Tenifer treatment AND the "frying pan" finish !

 

[fastbolt]

Which .40S&W pistol and why ? This is for carry , range , and home defense. Just an all around / do all pistol in .40S&W . I know there are others in the same catridge but these are my choices. I have had each one of these in the past and they served me well. They are all gone now but I have spotted one of each around my area for a decent price. Thanks for your opinions and experiences. NOTE: I have a Glock 22 and 27.

Well, you've already owned all of those choices and have formed your own opinions. You choose.

I own 5 pistols chambered in .40 S&W. Merely because it was an issued caliber for me for a while, and I could buy some discounted guns from a couple of the manufacturers after armorer classes. None of the ones I own are among your listed 3 choices, nor the 2 Glock models you mentioned, although I do own a G27 from the end of the 90's, and an early 2010 production M&P 40C.

Suit yourself. Who cares what someone else owns, likes or why?

 

[tercel89]

When I was a young officer the department I work for went from revolvers to the Glock 22. I was unsure of the Glock platform. I thought that the steel inserts that the slide rides on would wiggle their way out of the plastic. Well , it's now 2023 and they havent wiggled out yet LOL . I bought my issued Glock 22 when we went to the Glock 17. I love these things. They are darn near worry free guns !

 

[Mike J]

Ok UPDATE: While going to get the Beretta PX4 , I came across a Glock 23 made in 2006 which still has the Tenifer treatement. This makes it darn near rust proof. I couldn't resist it as $300 and the internals showed almost not wear. I think it maybe had 300 rds through it at the most ! I got it ! You can't beat a true Tenifer Glock with the Tenifer treatment AND the "frying pan" finish !


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Congratulations on your purchase. I hope you enjoy your new to you pistol.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Ok UPDATE: While going to get the Beretta PX4 , I came across a Glock 23 made in 2006 which still has the Tenifer treatement.

Thanks for the update and a good place to close this thread