41 magnum favorite loads

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Hello, I've done lots of reading on this site but first time to post. I just traded for a 41 magnum Bisley Blackhawk with a 7 1/2" barrel and was wondering what some other 41 mag owners favorite loads were. I reload and cast so cast bullets will be my primary bullets. I've got Lee 195 TL, 210 TL and 240 molds coming and my powders are 800x, 4756 and of course Unique. Anyone shooting the bullets I listed or something similar?

Thanks, Charlie
 
Most of what I shoot are 215 grain semi-wad cutters from Missouri Bullet Co. I mainly burn 2400. I've never used 800x or 4756, and while I have a bunch of Unique, I tend to use it for other calibers.

I love the 41 though...it's one of my favorite calibers.
 
Hello, I've done lots of reading on this site but first time to post. I just traded for a 41 magnum Bisley Blackhawk with a 7 1/2" barrel and was wondering what some other 41 mag owners favorite loads were. I reload and cast so cast bullets will be my primary bullets. I've got Lee 195 TL, 210 TL and 240 molds coming and my powders are 800x, 4756 and of course Unique. Anyone shooting the bullets I listed or something similar?

Thanks, Charlie
Go to the revolver forum and look up "41 magnum association", lots of good information and loading data. The posters are considered the higher IQ members of THR.
 
I use the Lee 210 gr. tumble lube bullet. It shoots very nicely out of my Ruger Blackhawk using 11.0 gr. AA#5. That is a pretty warm load, but not uncomfortable. Pretty accurate too. I just wish my Marlin 1894FG liked it as well. When I load something that both can use, it is a 210 gr. Speer or Sierra JHP over 20.3 gr. H110.
 
First you need a real magnum powder, one with enough volume to adequately fill the case. I use IMR 4227, A2400, and Ramshot Enforcer/AA4100 depending on the bullet and on the load that I find and believe credible. My lead bullet load uses 4227 or Enforcer (A4100 data). My gas check 230gr load uses A2400. My XTP load uses the 4227.
 
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Hey Charlie, welcome to the board......well this side of it anyway.:D

If your pouring your own, I HIGHLY suggest getting over to the Castboolit Group Buy forum and see if you can touch base with Mihec and pick up one or more of his 640 designed molds in .41. He might have one or two sitting aside. He also has a SWC which was put together by deminsions from the members using Keith's designed original molds. It is a great shooter.

Now this said MP molds aren't cheap like Lee they are precision made brass in 2 or 4 cavity. THey usually have at least three pin sets that are offered, you ight as well get them all and be did with it. This alows you to pour up a solid using the blank pin, and up to three different HP nose depths or diameters as well using the same mold. So it is like getting 2-3 molds in one. The Penta pins aren't the greatest as is, but I found that by chucking them into my drill press and filing off a portion of the tip it gives more or less a nice cup point which does work much better IMO.

Otherwise for what you DO have coming, I like to use the alox blend of 45/45/10 myself since it dries and isn't sticky. I have run it up into the upper 1600 to low 1700fps range thorugh my 454 with a double dip, once before sizing and once after. The weights between the 195 and the 220'ish range are where I spend most of my time. I DO have the heavy 240gr mold but to be honest I have only poured up one batch of around 250 of them just to try them out. I shot maybe 30-50 of those and the rest went back in the pot. I just couldn't see, #1, it doing anything for me that I couldn't get done with the others, #2, I didn't want to run a GC unless I really needed to.

I really do not like posting loads when I am not sitting in front of my data but of the powders you listed, Unique is one that I have used. My primary powders are AA-5,7, & 9, with 2400 and 296 falling in there with those. I like these due to they meter very well and give good velocities with everything I am running. I just got done with sighting in my Redhawk to some of the MP bullets yesterday as a matter of fact and was loading 19grs of 296 under the MP 413640 which drops at 220 with the lg hp and around 225-230grs with the small one depending on the alloy. I REALLLY like those molds and that bullet in particular. IF you wanted one mold to which you could cover most of the things in the lower 48 with that would be it. The solids have a nice fat meplat on them and the HP's well if your alloy is right they roll back like the small atomic bomb clouds. This is a pic of my .452 bullets which are almost identical only larger to the ones I described above,
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THe alloy I am using in those is softer than what I have to run in the magnums and trhose were top end RUGER ONLY loads with that alloy so they flattened out a bit much. The best part of casting, well, one of the best parts anyway is testing what you've poured up to see how it preforms.

I'll shoot you a note after Christmas with a little more info if you want. Right now I am sitting at the farm with the grandkids getting ready to head out and see if we can find a pig to cook for Christmas dinner.

Merry Christmas

(oh, and the thread listed above on the 41 Club, yes by all means spend a bit of time reading through it.)
 
.41 favorite loads

I have used a 4 5/8" Old Model Blackhawk(my 1st .41) since about 1980-81.
I sold that in 1985, and later bought a 4" M57, a M57 8 3/8", and an M58.
I've since sold THEM, and now carry what I think is the best of the lot...an M57 6". (I am looking for another Old Model 4 5/8" Blackhawk, though)
I use a LOT of different cast bullets,ie, Lyman 170 410639 truncated-cone, 410610 semi-wadcutter gas-check in solid and HP, RCBS 410KT solid and HP, and a Lee TL 90332 semi-wadcutter 240gr. I also have a Night Owl pointed custom mold that I got in a group buy over on Cast Boolits.
800X and Unique are very similar, and used in the same velocity range, midrange.
I've used a lot of Herco, AA#5 and #7, HS-6, WW571, and Solo 1000, in the same ranges, an like the way they work. I've gotten good accuracy from each and the velocity range is from 850fps to 1200fps.
The more powerful range of powder includes Blue Dot, 2400, AA#9, 4227, and the baddest of all, H110/WW296. I am not a fan of 4227 as it leaves a bunch of ash, which actually doesn't do any harm. It is said to clean up as pressure raises, but I get nervous when I put so much in the case, and the velocity doesn't get as high as I expect. I think it tends to have a small window for accuracy, too.
I've used a lot of alloys (ww+2% tin, Lyman#2, WW, and Linotype) with several lubes (White Label BAC and Red Carnuba, 45-45-10, RCBS green, Lyman Orange, LLC, Felix's, and some pan-lubes)
The most important thing is to have the bullet slightly (.001-.002") larger that the bore.
My favorite combination is the RCBS HP(mine has been modified) in Lyman #2 at .413" with BAC on top of 8.5gr of Unique and either CCI 300 or WW WLP primers.
When I find the right Blackhawk, that will be the first load I run through it.
Have fun, and Merry Christmas,
Gene.
 
I cast my own using a Lee 410-210-SWC.
They come out closer to 215.

I've tried a few powders.
Some I like, some I didn't.

Titegroup is very easy shooting, but you don't get magnum velocities.
2400 has a heck of the boom to it, in noise & recoil, but still a good one.
Accurate #5, was kinda disappointing. Recoil & velocity were unpleasant.
Universal - recoil was a bit more than titegroup, but not as much velocity.
W231 was sorta mild recoil, but again not of magnum velocity.

Hope this list helps a bit.
 
I shoot a 210 grain swc from a ideal mold, powder coated with unique in my Blackhawk and it shoots great. My favorite caliber to date.
 
Titegroup is very easy shooting, but you don't get magnum velocities.
2400 has a heck of the boom to it, in noise & recoil, but still a good one.
Accurate #5, was kinda disappointing. Recoil & velocity were unpleasant.
Universal - recoil was a bit more than titegroup, but not as much velocity.
W231 was sorta mild recoil, but again not of magnum velocity.

It's a MAGNUM.
 
I had hoped it would be more clear that my point was to have appropriate expectations for a cartridge's noise level and recoil. I don't think you criticize a magnum gun for being loud and a challenge to fire. Didn't mean to annoy.

Note that I am currently loading A2400 in my 41 Magnum load that uses 230 gr gas checks. Also A2400 is my standard load in my 44 Magnums. Maybe you pushed my 2400 button. I think it is a great powder. It's all good.
 
I wouldn't recommend using 2400 with non-gas checked lead bullets even in light loads (don't ask why I say that). Don't get me wrong, I love my magnums and mostly shoot full power loads.
 
I wouldn't recommend using 2400 with non-gas checked lead bullets even in light loads (don't ask why I say that). Don't get me wrong, I love my magnums and mostly shoot full power loads.

The Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook has bare lead loads using A2400, so that's what I follow. I don't think A2400 inherits the cautions that accompany H110/W296 that runs a hotter fire. A2400 uses standard primers, so it is significantly different.
 
Just test fired 12.4 gr AA#7 with 210 Xtreme plated TCFP and Penn 210 LTCFP. Although AA #7 is not regarded as magnum powder, this load is a real magnum experience. I was shooting a 6 1/2" Ruger NMBH Flat Top. No chrono, firing off hand at 50 feet. Shoots well enough for me. I will load more but might have to pick which bullet and use the other with a different load for variety and interest.

p.s. the 12.4 was what was yielded by a .88 cc aperture. I had 12 or thereabouts in mind. My data source was Western Powder.
 
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I've been having fun with 8.5-8.7 grains of Unique under an Xtreme 210 plated bullet as a plinker/fun round. Not a true magnum. More of a ".41 special" round in a magnum case. Fun.
 
My best deer load is the Hornady 210 grain xtp over 14 grains of Blue Dot. This load gives around 1380 fps and is fired in an OM Ruger BlackHawk. It drops deer nicely. Second is a good penetrating load composed of 18 grains of 2400 and a commercial cast 220 grain swc. This load gives 1450 fps and although it has taken deer, I really don't trust it in broadside shots.
 
Decided to reserve the Xtreme plated for 41 Special for now. The Xtreme plated TCFP and the Penn cast TCFP came in within days of each other. I don't have the 41 Special gun yet, but the conversion project is long overdue at Clements Custom, and I would like to think I will see it soon.

Just a note that I bought these plated bullets for the crimp groove. Otherwise, I don't buy plated at all for any revolver. I suppose it might be okay in my 32 SWL, but I load everything pretty robust and believe I need a good crimp. Also some ammo is available to a mating rifle.
 
20 grains of 4227 behind a 210 gr. XTP and a Winchester primer. Running 17 grains of 4227 with a 215 grain Lasercast as well for a softer load.
 
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