I am looking for ways of reloading .410 without getting a new press. I know I can fire form .303 brass, which I am uncomfortable doing, and I can use .444 marlin brass, which I haven't tried yet. I do have .45 colt brass and dies. Would making a light birdshot, multiball, or slug round be safe or possible? I know I can't use a LC bullet, I am only interested in making .410 brass, a very sad and short .410 brass.
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Sportsman's Guide also has that brass in case you have a membership like I do. It's already $5 cheaper than the other source.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...-loadable-brass-shotshells-36-gauge?a=1590558
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...-loadable-brass-shotshells-36-gauge?a=1590558
blarby
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Or, you could just cut the crimps off your existing .410 hulls and "glue load" them.
Considering this is pretty much what you are doing with the brass 2.5" hulls anyway, might as well get some practice !
Lots of folks apparently do this with a lot of success. Just need a way to deprime/reprime them.
Considering this is pretty much what you are doing with the brass 2.5" hulls anyway, might as well get some practice !
Lots of folks apparently do this with a lot of success. Just need a way to deprime/reprime them.
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I trim the hulls with an xacto knife blade and use an overshot card held in by a few drops of Elmers glue. It has worked perfectly fine for hundreds of rounds. I get 3 to 5 reloads before the case heads get loose.
I have dabbled with the Magteh brass .410 hulls a little and found they really did not nee much sizing. If i remember, I run the mouth of the case an inch or so up in to a 444 Marlin die, I think it was the seater die as it was a bit larger than the resize die.
But, I have yet to put more than a few loading/firing cycles on one of the hulls.
The chambered fine in my Mossberg 500. I cycled a few through the magazine but was worried about the over shot wad coming loose.
I have yet to get around to try the brass shells in my Browning Cynergy.
I used Duco cement for the over shot wad, but it dried out after a year or two.
I use a 303 British shell holder.
Hope this helps.
I went to a local gun store here that sells reloads and was talking to him about my project and he gave me a bag of a little over 50 .45 LC brass. All the brass had side ways, broken or otherwise damaged primers.
I found a recipe for 4 gr of bullseye, over powder card, used some 7.5 shot that I had then another card.
Before I started I ran all the brass through a .45 ACP die to decap and get them to chamber. I heard bullseye was too fast for .410 but I had some on hand so I dropped the charge to 1.5 gr and made 2 rounds for a .45LC/.410 pistol just for the first few tests.
1.5 gr literally went ffftt and shot rolled out of the barrel
2 gr sounded like a cap gun but wouldn't even put a hole in a soda can at 6 ft.
3 gr is what i found seemed to work. Not sure I can use it to hunt birds but it works for snake and locust.
3 grains is where I decided to stop until I found some lil gun and 296. I haven't got around to trying these since I have found them though.
I found a recipe for 4 gr of bullseye, over powder card, used some 7.5 shot that I had then another card.
Before I started I ran all the brass through a .45 ACP die to decap and get them to chamber. I heard bullseye was too fast for .410 but I had some on hand so I dropped the charge to 1.5 gr and made 2 rounds for a .45LC/.410 pistol just for the first few tests.
1.5 gr literally went ffftt and shot rolled out of the barrel
2 gr sounded like a cap gun but wouldn't even put a hole in a soda can at 6 ft.
3 gr is what i found seemed to work. Not sure I can use it to hunt birds but it works for snake and locust.
3 grains is where I decided to stop until I found some lil gun and 296. I haven't got around to trying these since I have found them though.
If you are going to be loading shot loads in 45 colt brass do yourself a favor and pick up some of these.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/682652/speer-empty-shot-capsules-45-colt-long-colt-box-of-25
I use them exclusively in 38\.357 and 45 colt now. They sure beat doing it the old way and they come with load data.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/682652/speer-empty-shot-capsules-45-colt-long-colt-box-of-25
I use them exclusively in 38\.357 and 45 colt now. They sure beat doing it the old way and they come with load data.
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For $200 you can get an excellent MEC Jr V .410 bore
Might sound like a chunk of change, but it will save you in time, heartache, materials. Did I mention time?
For even less used, you wont have to worry about cutting hulls, forming brass, or losing materials, ever. And it will save you time and much hassle.
A press you will have forever, your hulls will last many firings and you can load several boxes an hour. It makes nearly perfect loads tailored to your needs.
Used even less. Can you tell I have one and absolutely love it?
Might sound like a chunk of change, but it will save you in time, heartache, materials. Did I mention time?
For even less used, you wont have to worry about cutting hulls, forming brass, or losing materials, ever. And it will save you time and much hassle.
A press you will have forever, your hulls will last many firings and you can load several boxes an hour. It makes nearly perfect loads tailored to your needs.
Used even less. Can you tell I have one and absolutely love it?
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Don't bother with the glue.
I cut my wads with a .452" Lee sizer die and punch.
I just use an over-shot wad of card stock.
Cut the over powder wads from corregaded cardboard.
I prefer to use Hod. LilGun powder as it's more "forgiving".
I use a Lee dipper to measure powder and shot (approx 1/2oz) for 2.5" shells.
I don't even bother to crimp as the o/s wad is tight enough to contain the load.
I also use a PC wad for bird-shot. Corregated cardboard for buck shot (.375" RB).
4 buck-shot pellets patterns better for me. 5 possible in 3" hull, but I have few 3" hulls and are utilized for bird-shot loads.
For "carpenter bee loads" I use either .4oz of #8 shot or full case w/.45Colt of walnut hull over 5.0gr of Bullseye. I've killed squirrels in the front yard w/.4oz of #6 shot in .45Colt. They're like .22 shorts in a .22 lr chamber... (Work very well. If they will extract...)
Don't use .45Colt cases that have been used to fire heavy loads. They won't chamber in a .410 even if sized in a .45acp die.
I know, I've got several hundred that won't chamber in the .410 !!!. Fortunately they're mostly Starline that was fired in my .45Colt Ruger Redhawk before I saw the lack of "need' to load the .45 so "warm".
For a "slug", try a .40 180gr RFN. Worked in a SnakeCharmer I had for a while. Not real accurate, but adequate for close range.
I cut my wads with a .452" Lee sizer die and punch.
I just use an over-shot wad of card stock.
Cut the over powder wads from corregaded cardboard.
I prefer to use Hod. LilGun powder as it's more "forgiving".
I use a Lee dipper to measure powder and shot (approx 1/2oz) for 2.5" shells.
I don't even bother to crimp as the o/s wad is tight enough to contain the load.
I also use a PC wad for bird-shot. Corregated cardboard for buck shot (.375" RB).
4 buck-shot pellets patterns better for me. 5 possible in 3" hull, but I have few 3" hulls and are utilized for bird-shot loads.
For "carpenter bee loads" I use either .4oz of #8 shot or full case w/.45Colt of walnut hull over 5.0gr of Bullseye. I've killed squirrels in the front yard w/.4oz of #6 shot in .45Colt. They're like .22 shorts in a .22 lr chamber... (Work very well. If they will extract...)
Don't use .45Colt cases that have been used to fire heavy loads. They won't chamber in a .410 even if sized in a .45acp die.
I know, I've got several hundred that won't chamber in the .410 !!!. Fortunately they're mostly Starline that was fired in my .45Colt Ruger Redhawk before I saw the lack of "need' to load the .45 so "warm".
For a "slug", try a .40 180gr RFN. Worked in a SnakeCharmer I had for a while. Not real accurate, but adequate for close range.
I have been a fan of mec presses for over twenty five years, but not in .410!!!! I found it so frustrating trying to load the little rascals on the mec that I purchased a roll crimper from precision reloading for my .410's and have been much happier! Better loads and better looking to boot! BTW I have loaded plenty in the past using the old glue guns n method and it works great.
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