444,
Need!? What are you some sort of communist?
No, you're right, a person really only needs one load for a lever rifle. It's not like you need one load for long range, one for target work, etc. These are relatively range-limited firearms that are primarily utilitarian.
Still, if you get a .450 or a .444, and don't reload then someone ELSE gets to decide what single load you'll use. In the 45/70 you can do some experimentation with off-the-shelf ammo before you decide which load YOU want to be your one-and-only.
P95,
Trapdoor/Cowboy loads
PMC 405 gr Lead @ 1350 fps
Remington 405gr Lead @ 1330fps
HSM 405gr lead @1300fps
Black Hills 405gr Lead @ 1250fps
I believe these were developed as deer loads. My understanding is these are also Trapdoor safe.
Winchester 300gr Partition Gold @ 1880fps
Winchester 300gr Super-X JHP @ 1880fps
Federal 300gr JHP @ 1880fps
Remington 300g JHP @ 1810fps
Midrange hunting type loads. I can't recall seeing any special warnings on these, but I wouldn't put them in antiques or replicas.
Corbon 405gr Penetrator @ 1650fps
Corbon 350gr Bonded Core @ 1800fps
Garrett 420 @1850fps
HSM 400 gr JFP @ 1800fps
Top-end (still modern lever action safe but most of these are marked +P or Magnum or something equivalent)
Garrett 420 gr HC @ 1850fps
Garrett 540 gr HC @ 1550fps
Garrett 350 gr JSP @ 2000fps
Garrett 500 gr JSP @ 1600fps
Garrett 500 gr Tungsten Solid @ 1530fps
Buffalobore 430 gr HC @ 1930fps
Buffalobore 405 gr JSP @ 2000fps
Buffalobore 350 gr JSP @ 2150fps
Buffalobore 500gr solid @ 1625fps
Buffalobore 300gr Bonded Core @ 2350fps
HSM 350 gr Bonded Core @ 2000fps
PMC 350gr Sierra JSP @ 2025fps
I don't think I got it all by any means, but that's a good start.
The trapdoor & cowboy stuff runs cheap--maybe $15-20 a box. This looks anemic, but is pretty close to a duplicate of the blackpowder loads that did in the bison.
The Federal/Win/Rem 300gr loads are a bit steeper--what you'd expect to pay for decent hunting ammo.
The HSM & CorBon breaks the $30 a box barrier.
The Buffalobore and Garrett are downright expensive--figure on 2-3 bucks a round. The tungsten solid by Garrett is way up at the top at $9 a shot!
The good news is that the PMC 350 gr +P load can be had for under $20 a box if you look around.
Good shooting!
John
Need!? What are you some sort of communist?
No, you're right, a person really only needs one load for a lever rifle. It's not like you need one load for long range, one for target work, etc. These are relatively range-limited firearms that are primarily utilitarian.
Still, if you get a .450 or a .444, and don't reload then someone ELSE gets to decide what single load you'll use. In the 45/70 you can do some experimentation with off-the-shelf ammo before you decide which load YOU want to be your one-and-only.
P95,
Trapdoor/Cowboy loads
PMC 405 gr Lead @ 1350 fps
Remington 405gr Lead @ 1330fps
HSM 405gr lead @1300fps
Black Hills 405gr Lead @ 1250fps
I believe these were developed as deer loads. My understanding is these are also Trapdoor safe.
Winchester 300gr Partition Gold @ 1880fps
Winchester 300gr Super-X JHP @ 1880fps
Federal 300gr JHP @ 1880fps
Remington 300g JHP @ 1810fps
Midrange hunting type loads. I can't recall seeing any special warnings on these, but I wouldn't put them in antiques or replicas.
Corbon 405gr Penetrator @ 1650fps
Corbon 350gr Bonded Core @ 1800fps
Garrett 420 @1850fps
HSM 400 gr JFP @ 1800fps
Top-end (still modern lever action safe but most of these are marked +P or Magnum or something equivalent)
Garrett 420 gr HC @ 1850fps
Garrett 540 gr HC @ 1550fps
Garrett 350 gr JSP @ 2000fps
Garrett 500 gr JSP @ 1600fps
Garrett 500 gr Tungsten Solid @ 1530fps
Buffalobore 430 gr HC @ 1930fps
Buffalobore 405 gr JSP @ 2000fps
Buffalobore 350 gr JSP @ 2150fps
Buffalobore 500gr solid @ 1625fps
Buffalobore 300gr Bonded Core @ 2350fps
HSM 350 gr Bonded Core @ 2000fps
PMC 350gr Sierra JSP @ 2025fps
I don't think I got it all by any means, but that's a good start.
The trapdoor & cowboy stuff runs cheap--maybe $15-20 a box. This looks anemic, but is pretty close to a duplicate of the blackpowder loads that did in the bison.
The Federal/Win/Rem 300gr loads are a bit steeper--what you'd expect to pay for decent hunting ammo.
The HSM & CorBon breaks the $30 a box barrier.
The Buffalobore and Garrett are downright expensive--figure on 2-3 bucks a round. The tungsten solid by Garrett is way up at the top at $9 a shot!
The good news is that the PMC 350 gr +P load can be had for under $20 a box if you look around.
Good shooting!
John