45-70 1895 gs

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ArmedBear said:
I'd recommend keeping the irons, and investing in a gong target. Practice at various distances from 40 to 150 yards or more. With the .45-70, it's more important to get to know the round and its trajectory than it is to have a little crosshair.

This I agree with a whole lot. I now have a Weaver 1-3x20mm mounted on my 1895G because my eyes won't do a good enough front post/target thing any longer. When I had the aperture on, it was more than functional for me out to ~150 yards.

I staple paper plates to 2' stakes and set 'em out at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards. I've got 125 and 160 yard gongs on the hillside. Once you set up whichever sight system you go with, get off the bench and use a simple course like that to learn the load and rifle from field positions.

I think these rifles are best suited to that kind of work, they're a real hoot to work with, too.
 
A .45-70 round poking along at less than 1500 fps will go straight through a buffalo. There's no need for incredible velocity with a real, old-school bullet like a 405 grain .458 slug -- just with the tiny little things we call bullets now.

You absolutely correct. I only shoot the Black Hills 405 grain rounds out of mine. But I have this unnatural addiction to recoil. What were you shooting when you took that bison, and was it BP or smokeless?
 
BP handloads, cast roundnose lead bullet, 525 grains from a Lyman mold. Some mix of wheelweights and lead ingots we melted in a pot. Mine was a one-shot kill, couldn't tell the entry from the exit when we butchered it. We really did have to wait for the buffalo to be clear of another one behind it, since we were only taking one each.

I used a Sharps repro, so I could use the really heavy bullets. Some other guys had original rifles of various flavors and used 405 grain bullets. They worked fine.:)

I was the only one with a replica. We had an orignal Sharps .50-90, an original Trapdoor Springfield that literally was in new condition (it had remained unissued back in 1878, just sat in oil and was pased down in a guy's family until he used it a year and a half ago), and an original Rolling Block with a new octagon barrel on it in .45-70, to replace a shot-out one.

This is the guy with the .50-90 Sharps original, trying to shoot while one guy looks through binoculars and babbles, and his father gives unsolicited advice in the green parka.

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Again, we're talking crude RNL bullets that go straight through a buffalo, side to side, and keep going. They can kill two of them in a row, if they're lined up, and buffalo are big, thick, and heavy.

Those heavy-recoiling Buffalo Bore rounds are neat, and they certainly show what a modern .45-70's potential is (which is downright scary). However, I have to say I was pretty amazed when I saw what the 1870s vintage guns and original loads were capable of.

The trajectory does take getting used to, for someone who is used to modern high-velocity spitzers!

I shot a jackrabbit at about 75 yards. It took I think 8 rounds to do it. Too high, too low, rabbit moved out a litte, too low again, then too high. Finally, I got the elevation right. .45-70 RNL works fine on jackrabbit. Doesn't destroy the meat, just blows it back a good distance.:)
 
ArmedBear said:
This is the guy with the .50-90 Sharps original, trying to shoot while one guy looks through binoculars and babbles, and his father gives unsolicited advice in the green parka.

Stunning photo and HILARIOUS description!! :D Sorry if I missed it but was that photo taken in Idaho?

I've noticed a big difference between shooting my XLR and Guide Gun in .45-70. Recently I loaded up some VV N130 and 405 grain SP bullets. The starting load of 44.0gr was fine in both, but the maximum load of 48.0gr (1700 fps) wasn't much different in the XLR but noticeably more intense in the Guide Gun. The difference in the stocks, recoil pads and 1/2lb extra weight of the XLR really make a difference.

:)
 
I once drove a forklift through a 4x12 beam. It shook the whole building and just kept on going. It's moments like when big and slow sink in!
 
was that photo taken in Idaho?

No, but it wasn't too far. It was in Southwestern Montana, north up I-15 from Idaho Falls.

You can tell because the horizon is horizontal here in Idaho, but not in Montana where I took the picture.:D In Montana, it leans quite a bit.
 
i love the wood furniture that mine came with and i want to keep it looking pretty...

Mine is an older blued steel one with the factory ported barrel, and I like the wood that came on mine too! I also prefer a scope...not necessarily for the distance involved in shooting, but for the improved vision in early morning and late evening when I see the most deer.

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I like the wood that came on mine too!

Huh.

None of my Marlins have come with a pile of wood on them like yours did. They just came in a cardboard box, wrapped in plastic and anti-rust paper.

Was I ripped off?

I mean, I can always use some more firewood.
 
I finally got out to shoot the 1985GS on Monday past. What a blast!! I am hooked big time on the 45-70. I was expecting more recoil than there actually was. It was a please to shoot. Now I can't wait to take my next Moose with it.

Thanks to all who gave me advice on this gun!!
 
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