45 acp Ammo

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Hello all,
I don't know if any of you have noticed but 45 acp ammo has gotten really expensive; just in the past two months it has increased from an average of $18 per 50 rounds to $24 for the same 50 rounds. I can't afford bulk ammo purchases now, but I can buy a box now and then as I can afford it. Obviously I can't afford to load my own ammo. I've searched the 'net until I'm cross-eyed and have had no luck. I've seen Tula steel cased ammo but it's pretty much sold out and the CCI stuff in aluminum cartridge cases is a non-starter with me. There is also a stupid rumor running on the 'net that I can get 45 acp inexpensively at Walmart but that has appeared to be false. So here's the big question: where can I buy 45 acp ammo inexpensively in 50 or 100 round boxes?
Bob
 
Bob, the best prices I have found are the "Canned Heat" specials on www.georgia-arms.com. But, you are going to have to come up with enough money to buy in bulk if you want the discounts. The advantage of online for you is no sales tax. Shipping is free, if you buy over a certain amount.

I get the 230gr. FMJ NATO .45ACP in the 500 round can for $170.00. If you buy 2 (1000 rounds), it's $330.00. You save $10.00. Rather than pay for shipping, I go to the gun shows where they have a table setup and buy from them there.

I know it's a lot of money to put out at once, but over time you pay much less per round in the end. Since I shoot a lot, it's the best option I have found.
 
WWB prices have remained the same in Mall Wart -- $32.97 per 100-rd box. That's $329.70 per 1,000 (plus tax but no shipping). :)
 
You say you can't afford to load your own ammo, but it sounds like you can't afford NOT to! For the amount you would spend on a case of .45acp you can buy a single stage press and all the components you would need to load up quite a few rounds. Reloading for .45acp quickly pays for the cost of the equipment. I reload lead 230 grain .45 for about $6 a box... Just save your money until you can buy a single stage reloading set up and you will be set to roll your own ammo cheaply. Beyond reloading don't expect to find .45 for much less than $20 a box any more, all ammo was due for a price hike this month due to a supposed increase in component costs. To put things in perspective, just 5 years ago brass cased .45 from walmart was $9 a box and wolf steel cased was about $5 a box!
 
Hmm.

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=CC53967&src=tpSlrHm

I reload. The Forster Co-Ax press is what I love and use in single stage because there's no shellplates, no primer seaters to buy.

eBay has a couple single stage presses:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCBS-ROCK-CHUCK...947?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b9c2c133

http://cgi.ebay.com/LYMAN-RELOADING-PRESS-/300540232848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f9980490

Powder measure:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCBS-uniflow-po...342?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336661eb3e

Scale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Lyman-O...450?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33665a719a

and shop for the dies.

If you don't have the inclination to reload, no problem. If you do, maybe you see you can get quality used equipment at better prices than retail.
 
That really is a good price, does it shoot well...I'm starting into my last 1k rounds of CCI Blazer

I think it does. They claim that Sig uses it to tell their guns for whatever that is worth... LOL :evil:

I have a shot a lot of their 124ge 9mm. It is nato hot and accurate out of everything I shoot it out of. The 45 ACP has done well in my TRS and DW as well as my Sigs.

You say you can't afford to load your own ammo, but it sounds like you can't afford NOT to! For the amount you would spend on a case of .45acp you can buy a single stage press and all the components you would need to load up quite a few rounds. Reloading for .45acp quickly pays for the cost of the equipment. I reload lead 230 grain .45 for about $6 a box... Just save your money until you can buy a single stage reloading set up and you will be set to roll your own ammo cheaply. Beyond reloading don't expect to find .45 for much less than $20 a box any more, all ammo was due for a price hike this month due to a supposed increase in component costs. To put things in perspective, just 5 years ago brass cased .45 from walmart was $9 a box and wolf steel cased was about $5 a box!

People always make this argument but never factor in the time it takes to load the ammo and the issues with learning to do it properly. Look at any reloading section of any forum and you will find threads from people who have had issues. 45 is a pretty tame round as far as pressure goes but have seen 40 S&W kaboom with hand reloads. How much do you think those guys saved by blowing up their gun? There was a recent thread where a lady blew up her Kahr CW45 should we add that $450 tab to her cost of reloading? For me the idea of reloading holds zero allure for me. I think about it every now and then but continue to buy ammo in bulk and use my free time for other pursuits. :) YMMV Nothing wrong with reload if you like doing it.

Also you are wrong about your can't find 45 ACP under $20 a box, assuming you mean 50 rounds per box, I never pay more than $17 delivered for 50 rounds.
 
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WWB prices have remained the same in Mall Wart -- $32.97 per 100-rd box

That was the price although I haven't seen any lately. Even the shelf tag for the 100 round box is gone. all other calibers were well stocked.
 
Just bought a box of WWB at WM a few weeks ago then shot 100 rounds and stopped at WM on the way home & bought another 100. We have about 6 WMs to chose from and I shop them all and not all have it at the same time.
 
I think it does. They claim that Sig uses it to tell their guns for whatever that is worth... LOL :evil:

I have a shot a lot of their 124ge 9mm. It is nato hot and accurate out of everything I shoot it out of. The 45 ACP has done well in my TRS and DW as well as my Sigs.



People always make this argument but never factor in the time it takes to load the ammo and the issues with learning to do it properly. Look at any reloading section of any forum and you will find threads from people who have had issues. 45 is a pretty tame round as far as pressure goes but have seen 40 S&W kaboom with hand reloads. How much do you think those guys saved by blowing up their gun? There was a recent thread where a lady blew up her Kahr CW45 should we add that $450 tab to her cost of reloading? For me the idea of reloading holds zero allure for me. I think about it every now and then but continue to buy ammo in bulk and use my free time for other pursuits. :) YMMV Nothing wrong with reload if you like doing it.

Also you are wrong about your can't find 45 ACP under $20 a box, assuming you mean 50 rounds per box, I never pay more than $17 delivered for 50 rounds.

I didn't say you CAN'T find it for under $20 a box. Ammo prices are rising yet again throughout this month and it will be harder and harder to find .45 for under $20 a box... even if you are paying $17 a box I can reload for MUCH cheaper.
Reloading is really not difficult at all, but if somebody is mentally challenged or impatient to the point that they are making frequent mistakes I agree that they probably shouldn't reload. For most people that reload it is an enjoyable hobby in and of itself and we see it as a constructive use of time instead of wasting time doing pointless things like watching tv. If somebody hates reloading, I agree that they are best to avoid it. My point remains that he will be hard pressed to find ammo for the price he wants if he doesn't get into reloading.
 
I bought a dillon square deal dedicated to .45acp when they first came out. I bought several pounds of 231 powder and many thousands bullets. I saved enough to pay for several guns. I've never changed the die or powder settings and I have loaded over 40k rounds on it.
 
I bought a dillon square deal dedicated to .45acp when they first came out. I bought several pounds of 231 powder and many thousands bullets. I saved enough to pay for several guns. I've never changed the die or powder settings and I have loaded over 40k rounds on it.

The above is your answer.

Dave
 
I just heard a story about Wally World requesting their manufacturers to "weaken" the loads supplied to them...I can't believe a national chain would/could do this, but the folks who told me are usually pretty reputable - can anyone substantiate/refute?
 
Yea it can cost some $$$ to get going reloading - I went all the way in '03 and bought everything I'd need from Brian Enos. Dillon 550B, digital scale, tumbler, everything. I liked it so much that later I added another 550B off of ebay.

Most of us have not blown up our guns because we pay attention to what we are doing. Read some reloading manuals and "The ABC's of Reloading" and get going! Time is a factor but once you're set up it doesn't take long to knock out 100 rounds on a progressive machine.
 
Bob, the best prices I have found are the "Canned Heat" specials on www.georgia-arms.com. But, you are going to have to come up with enough money to buy in bulk if you want the discounts. The advantage of online for you is no sales tax. Shipping is free, if you buy over a certain amount.

I get the 230gr. FMJ NATO .45ACP in the 500 round can for $170.00. If you buy 2 (1000 rounds), it's $330.00. You save $10.00. Rather than pay for shipping, I go to the gun shows where they have a table setup and buy from them there.

I know it's a lot of money to put out at once, but over time you pay much less per round in the end. Since I shoot a lot, it's the best option I have found.
I just went online (thanks for the link) and found the "canned heat" section and was all ready to order 1000 rds for $330.00....but when I went in to "view" the product I found a message indicating they were temporarily out of stock due to some "component" issue!?

http://georgia-arms.com/cannedheat45acp230grfullmetaljacket1000pk.aspx

My first thought was "wow, those guys on THR don't fool around...when thy buy ammo...they buy ammo...."

Just wondering if maybe the "component" issue is the metal ammo can?

Anyone else see this?

Oh...by the way, Trisha - I tried your link to gunbroker - and with a couple days left they have no bidders and a $400 "buy now" price....is that typical?
 
Just wondering if maybe the "component" issue is the metal ammo can?


Doubt it, they had a notice on their homepage that said they are out of ammo cans, so they will be replacing them with some plastic ammo cans they got.
 
You ammo buyers can offset your costs even more....I'll pay you 50 bucks for every 1k pieces of brass you send me.
 
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