Dog Soldier
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Very good D.B. Yes, many dollars from the West Coast and their activist fought our gun rights in parks and on public lands.
Again, instead of disrupting this thread with your pseudoscience and "proof," start a new thread in the "Non-firearm Weapons" section and I will dismantle whatever you have there. Okay?
Sorry but FIREARMS are being compared to bear spray. That was the essence of the TWO STUDIES YOU POSTED as proof!
But you won't defend them against my showing they are flawed.
Deaf
Hello everyone. We are planning on going on an extended trip where black bears are known to frequent. I really only have two options to carry a handgun on the trip, so please do not suggest a larger caliber as of course I would love to have a 44 Magnum but it's not in the cards. My choices are strictly 45 ACP in a 1911, or a 357 revolver 6 shots.
I am planning on getting Buffalo Bore rounds, and yes the ballistics on the 357 look superior however I have a few concerns. First I have six shots in the 357 as opposed to 9 in the 1911. More of a concern of mine however is permanent hearing damage that would be caused by the 357 in close-quarters proximity with my family, as opposed to the temporary discomfort of the 45. Also I'm a much better shot with the 1911.
Not sure if I should also put ease of a mag chance in the equation of a charging bear....but there is the reloading speed.
So what gets the nod: revolver in 357 or 1911 in 45?
No where did I state anything about not taking a gun....actually I said just the opposite.
You are assuming that the op doesn't already have this information and is ignorant. Where did he say that? If I missed it sorry, but otherwise it's pretty arrogant to make assumptions about his knowledge base when you don't know him from Adam. Seriously though, if I missed that statement please point it out.Knowledge of Black Bear habits, how to not attract them to your food sources and what to do first if one encounters one, is what will avoid an attack and will have a larger impact on keeping most folks alive than the gun they carry. If one is backpacking or traveling into the backcountry of Yosemite, food canisters are required. This is the knowledge folks need to give to the OP, not what their personal preference in handguns is. I think this was addressed at the beginning of this thread by Drail
You also stated that the Bear spray study was flawed. No matter, start a thread wherever you see fit, and I will dismantle it there, then.
.VS. the firearms study OC, .vs. the firearms study. The bear spray study YOU COMPARED TO THE FIREARMS STUDY TO IS FLAWED. That is the comparison YOU made was flawed. Hint hint.. your saying (or shall I say Dr. Smith saying) firearms are not as effective as bear spray.
Deaf