7.62x39 Golden Tiger vs "Russian Wolf" vs "Russian Military Classic"?

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I need to pick up another 1,000 rounds of 7.62x39. I usually use AmmoMan and right now he has 3 types of 7.62x39 FMJ for $195-$199. What should I choose?

RUSSIAN 7.62X39 GOLDEN TIGER FMJ AMMO
124 GRAIN NON CORROSIVE
20 ROUNDS PER BOX - 1,000 ROUNDS PER CASE
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7.62x39 RUSSIAN WOLF FMJ
FULL METAL JACKET
NEW POLYMER COATING
20 ROUND BOXES NON CORROSIVE
762x39FMJ122GR.jpg



7.62X39 RUSSIAN MILITARY CLASSIC
FULL METAL JACKET
NON CORROSIVE BRAND NEW AMMO
100% NEW POLYMER COATING
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I've used this "military classic" before with success. Any suggestions?
 
Though most reports on wolf ammo are positive, i've read many more complaints about wolf than i ever have about GT.This goes back a couple years, on several firearm and AK-specific forums. But to be fair, i haven't shot ANY wolf ammo myself, but i've shot lots of GT through several different rifles, and split cases with friends. No problems at all for any of us . GT is also pretty widely reported to shoot cleaner and hotter than the wolf stuff, and is usually cheaper.
 
Golden Tiger for me. If you can get the HP, then much better. They expand very well on impact. Makes for a nasty wound on the intended target.
 
I recently put 500 rounds of golden tiger through an SKS over two consecutive days without cleaning. I started getting FTE's (not every shot, but every now & then) in a hot gun after about 400 rounds.

Otherwise, I think I had one FTF, and that may have been due to out-of-battery (not sure though--primer strike was very light).

I don't think these are really bad results for cheap lacquer-coated ammo.

IMHO, all the Russian steel/lacquer stuff is really about the same. It even smells the same. AFAIK, they're all made (at least approximately) to Russian MIL-SPEC. Buy the cheapest.
 
on several firearm and AK-specific forums.
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aside from smelling like cat pee, wolf has NO problems in AK's and SKS's its those picky AR's (some AR's shoot it fine) that earn it a bad rep.

it seems to be a little bit under GT in the quality, but its much more widely available.
 
I am personally a Wolf/cheap Russian Ammo devotee. While I can afford to shoot 5-round groups with expensive, brass-case stuff, I can't stock any significant quantity of it.

I'm less enthusiastic about the Golden Tiger because it doesn't say "polymer coated" and I don't want the lacquer-coated stuff. It is also $5 cheaper, and while I'm not sure what that says, I'd like the "good stuff" if I'm already in the very-cheap ammunition category.

I have not used Golden Tiger but I have used both Wolf Black Box and Wolf Military Classic successfully. I recall the black box cases being green and the military classic cases being pewter/dark gray.

Any difference currently between the two versions of Wolf? They are both polymer-coated which is the important thing for me.

Also, do you guys really run hollow points? As "just-in-case" (shtf) ammo, I want something that feeds for sure and thus I have always bought the FMJ's.
 
Just realized the Black Box is 122 grain while the others are 124 grain. It's now between Golden Tiger and Military Classic.
 
Haven't tried GT but I'm liking the wolf mil classic (I also have some 154gr black box). From what I have read from various ballistic tests it uses a different (much better) bullet than most of the cheap stuff and actually tumbles, frags, and gets good penetration.

Haven't had any failure-to-anythings...but come on, it's an AK! You can use them as an axe and they'll beg for another spanking.
 
military classic = lacquer coted
black box = new poly coating
golden tiger = lacquer (IIRC)


from what i've read, they all work great in AK's.

WMC diameter is .311, Wolf black box is .310. Golden tiger is .311.

Military classic is more to russian military standards, i think.
I would run any of them with confidence
 
Golden Tiger is lacquer coated. Wolf "Military Classic" is polymer coated.

In an AK or SKS, I don't think it really matters either way. Both were designed to shoot lacquer coated steel-case ammo.

The polymer may be better in an AR.
 
my uncle sks wont cycle the wolf

the reason is because of the polymer coat on the cases so we tried the golden tiger in both his and my sks's it work wonderful and is cheaper. P.S. he seems to think it is more accurate
 
All 3 seems to shoot well in my AK's,SKS's,Saiga's and not ever a problem...I would prefer GT,but Wolf works 'just fine' (in both SKS's...Yugo and a Russian).I havent tried this ammo in my AR's...honestly wouldnt want to...
 
Golden Tiger FTW. My WASR loves it. Hits the 100yd plate with no problem if I do my part and I can't ask for more than that.
 
I vote Golden Tiger. Never had a problem with it, but the Wolf primers are pretty hard and my CZ carbine had some issues setting them off. No problems with any in my Saiga. My SKS didn't like the hollowpoints.
 
I put them in this order based on FTFire rates/DUDs:

Golden Tiger - Never had one
Wolf (regular, from TCW) - had 1
Wolf MC (Ulyanovosk in a wolf box) - had several

FTF's are what matter the most to me in these guns how i shoot them. THe accuarcy is only a tad bit worse with Golden tiger than the regular wolf, and seems to be the worst with the mil classic. The only thing i hate about most all of Tulas new output is that polymer coating that does not hold up as well in storage when damp ect..
Barnual beats them all in every catagory but you didnt ask. The "hot-shot" is as good as barnual in all the other ways, but with an M67 style projectile and the good old laqured cases. Its the best for all of my applications IMHO. Century has it on sale right now i think.

In your current case i would say go for the golden tiger by far.
 
Even though this isn't the exact question asked, here is my answer:

Rank the Top 7.62x39 Commercial Brands:

1. Sellier & Bellot
2. Barnaul
3. Brown Bear/Silver Bear
4. Golden Tiger
5. Wolf (Tula Cartridge Works, black box)
6. Wolf Military Classic (Ulyanovsk, camo box)
7. Ulyanovsk (blue and white packaging, spam can)
8. Norinco


The Ulyanovsk I tried in the past was awful. The only thing worse is the semi-corrosive Norinco that smells like a cat peed on a radiator. The Wolf Military Classic, while pretty sucky, is at least better than the actual Ulyanovsk branded ammunition. I guess Wolf made them improve their QC.
 
I didn't know Hot Shot was loaded with an M67 style projectile, I'll have to check some out. I definately agree about lacquer coated cases, they do WAY better against water than polymer. The worst coating is the zinc on Silver Bear. That stuff turns into a nasty powdery oxide very quickly and does nothing against moisture.
 
golden tiger does not work in my yugo sks, it fte's a lot.

Works like love in my chinee norinco.
No arguments here. It's cheap and fun.

Norinco ammo, the copper wash steelcore stuff was always amazing in functionality and accuracy for me.
no wonder it's all but gone.
 
Wow this thread just keeps going.

HPD - I did already order 1000 rounds Wolf MC 7.62 for $199 shipped and 1000 rounds Wolf Black Box 9mm for $150-$160 - Can't quite remember but now that the WWB jumped in price I'm trying something new for pistols/carbines as well.

Anyway, I've never tried Wolf 9mm but the Wolf MC 7.62 FMJ's have always worked great for me as stated above. I'm sticking with what I know. Sounds like some people really like GT but I just wasn't sure what the coating was on it and I wanted to make sure I got polymer not lacquer...
 
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