7mm-06 Remington

I'm a big fan of the standard 280 Remington. I am a hunter and I wanted the standard version because I use a featherweight rifle with a 22 inch barrel because it is easier to carry and easier to handle. If you go to the Ackley version most rifle are heavier with a 24 inch barrel and I don't buy the argument that the increased velocity of the Ackley version is an improvement for the average hunter. I especially don't buy the argument that you get longer case life with the Ackley version because years ago I had a standard 25-06 rifle and also a rifle with the improved chamber. The improved chamber reduced forward brass flow but the increased velocity was bad to burn holes and split case necks. It is easy to get 3000 fps with a 140 grain bullet in the standard version out of a 22 inch barrel and that is is the level of performance I am looking for. Also, the recoil of a 280 Remington with a 22 inch barrel and 140 grain bullets is noticeably less than a 30-06 using 165 grain bullets. An 8 pound rifle in 280 Remington is a user friendly rifle.
 
sage5907 said:
I especially don't buy the argument that you get longer case life with the Ackley version
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I agree, I've been shooting the std. .280 Rem. since the late 70's and case life is excellent! I'm still reloading the same 100 cases I started out with.

I just haven't needed it to go any faster, I've shot caribou, bear and LOT'S of deer with mine, in fact I shot a nice buck with it a few weeks ago.

DM
 
I have been a 280 fan for a long time. I have never owned one, but have a few friends that have them. I personally think it is a better cartridge than the 270win.
If I was in the market for a new 7mm cartridge rifle it would be between the 7mm-08 or 280AI based on availability of rifles and ammo.

After looking at online catalogs of five different manufacturers the only manufacturer that cataloged the 280 rem was Browning. They also offer the 7mm wsm so what is really available?

I guess I would go with the 7mm-08. It has the most options available.
 
The saga of Remington's .280 =7mmExpress =7mm06=.280 again has created much confusion and even some disbelief. The confusion began with a brainstorm at Remington's headquarters with recognition that their .280 was not getting the recognition it deserved, and its ho-hum name mainly led to misguided comparisons with Winchester's .270. So their reasoning was that the name itself needed more pizzazz. The ongoing success of their 7mmMagnum demonstrated that the hunting public were tuned in on a caliber with "mm" attached to the title and a snazzy namechange for the .280, like 7mmExpress was sure to be a winner. Problems were immediate, one being that it was often confused with the 7mmMag, especially when sold in big box stores where clerks didn't know the difference. So rifles and ammo were withdrawn from stores and distributers for obvious safety reasons. (Remaining stocks, BTW, were sold on European markets.) Now time for another brainstorm at Remington and their 7mm06 was born. More problems, so the wiser heads decided that .280 wasn't such a bad name after all, especially that major gun writers were finally recognizing what a great cartridge it was. I once had rifles in both calibers, and now wish I had kept both. But I did save some of the ammo for both. . IMG_5781 (1).jpg
 
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I have a 7mm-06 built on an Argentine Mauser action.
It was a project rifle my father started years ago before he passed and I just recently had it finished.
This summer I'll be trying to figure out loading for it knowing that I'll probably never find factory rounds.

Thank you all for the info.
 
The .280 Remington is not just a 7mm ‘06. It’s shoulder is 050” forward, supposedly to keep it out of .30-06 or somehow crammed into a .270.

There was a fad of building .280 sporters on 1909 Mauser actions with the commercial style floor plate latch. It was commonly said that WW .270 brass was both thinner and harder, suitable for overloads “equal to 7mm Magnum up to 145 gr bullets”. Yeah, right. Also saved gunsmith work to convert to belted magnum.
 
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Jim Watson said:
The .280 Remington is not just a 7mm ‘06. It’s shoulder is 050” forward, supposedly to keep it out of .30-06 or somehow crammed into a .270.

There was a fad of building .280 sporters on 1909 Mauser actions with the commercial style floor plate latch. It was commonly said that WW .270 brass was both thinner and harder, suitable for overloads “equal to 7mm Magnum up to 145 gr bullets”. Yeah, right. Also saved gunsmith work to convert to belted magnum.
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Funny thing, I just purchased a 280 Rem custom built on a 1909 Argentine Mauser. I'll try and get some picture of it up this weekend either in this thread or a separate one. I've been looking for a nice 280 for a while and this one ticked all the boxes for me.
 
1948CJ2A said:
Funny thing, I just purchased a 280 Rem custom built on a 1909 Argentine Mauser. I'll try and get some picture of it up this weekend either in this thread or a separate one. I've been looking for a nice 280 for a while and this one ticked all the boxes for me.
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Ah yes, pictures...
 

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Jim Watson said:
The .280 Remington is not just a 7mm ‘06. It’s shoulder is 050” forward, supposedly to keep it out of .30-06 or somehow crammed into a .270.

There was a fad of building .280 sporters on 1909 Mauser actions with the commercial style floor plate latch. It was commonly said that WW .270 brass was both thinner and harder, suitable for overloads “equal to 7mm Magnum up to 145 gr bullets”. Yeah, right. Also saved gunsmith work to convert to belted magnum.
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So? Is the 7mm-06 different than the 280 Remington???
 
Litetrigger said:
The .280 Rem:7mm Express,:7mm/08, ETC,, or whatever it's called, is one of my favorite calibers. If I could hunt the world with only one caliber it would be my choice...
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The 280, 7 express have nothing to do with the 7mm/08. 7-08 is a completely different cartridge...

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