870 Extractor Issue

[Captains1911]

I am trying to replace the factory MIM extractor on my Remington 870 Express with a steel extractor. I originally ordered the part from Brownell's, attempted to install it, and it would not fit properly. I was informed that Brownell's likely sent me the wrong part, so I returned it and ordered the steel extractor directly from Remington. After waiting 2 weeks for the new part to arrive, I went to install it and it does not fit into the bolt either.

The first picture below is of the bolt face. Notice the sloppy uneven cut-out where the extractor fits into it. I don't own another 870 to compare with, but this doesn't look right to me. The second photo is of the two different extractors, the steel part on the left and the MIM on the right. Notice how the edge of the MIM part is chamfered unlike the steel part. This chamfer is what's allowing it to fit into the bolt. Is the MIM part typically shaped like this or was this particular one likely ground down to fit into this particular bolt?

 

[dprice3844444]

send the part back to rem with the bolt.let them replace it

 

[o Unforgiven o]

Comparing your bolt with mine, the extractor cut looks bad. Call Remington and let them know about your problem.

 

[nofishbob]

The bolt in my 870 Express has a straight, square cut for the extractor.

My extractor also has the chamfer, so it is probably not related to the shape of the cut in your bolt.

I would see about getting Remington to replace your bolt.

Good luck!

Bob

 

[Yo Mama]

What was the original problem that lead you to change out the extractor? I ask because this may not have been the problem.

 

[Captains1911]

What was the original problem that lead you to change out the extractor? I ask because this may not have been the problem.

No problem with the original, I just want the stronger steel extractor that comes with the Police model for piece of mind. It's my understanding that an 870 bolt is an 870 bolt, so any 870 extractor should fit properly.

 

[micdude]

+1 for me too I also just checked my 870 and it's streaght and square + I also ordered a new extractor from brownels and it works good.send it back to remenington.

 

[TurtlePhish]

Man, that is a bad extractor cut. I wonder how that happened.

 

[rcmodel]

Hard to believe how far 870 quality has sunk since the old 870 Wingmasters I grew up with!!

That bolt photo looks like they found it in the QC scrap box on dump the junk day!!

I'd at least expect to see a smooth polished bolt face, if not an extractor cut that was straight too.

rc

 

[mnrivrat]

The chamfer is external and should not effect the fit. Measure the thickness of the too parts. The 11-87 extractor is thicker than the 1100 for example and perhaps a change was made on the 870 ?

Putting that aside for the moment, the bolt looks like crap overall and it also looks like the extractor slot has gotten damaged. Either factory, or when the extractor was removed ? Either way a trip back to Remington might be the best thing to do.

PS: Or go to the Parts section on Gunbroker and buy a complete bolt assy for less than $50 and have one that is much better machined.

 

[Jeff F]

Did you mic them? I'm thinking the new one is thicker then the old one. If so it could be fixed with a little stoning.

 

[rcmodel]

Stoning my A --- ahh! Nevermind.

The whole bolt needs to be replaced, on Remingtons dime!

rc

 

[Captains1911]

Remington agreed to replace the bolt, at first they wanted me I ship the entire shotgun to them but they finally came to their senses.

 

[Ryanxia]

That's good that they're going to replace it on their dime. It's what they should do, but glad they're not making a fuss. How many companies actually do what they SHOULD any more?

Now you got me curious about my own 870, guess I'll have to add that little inspection to the TO-DO list this weekend.

 

[micdude]

Allright Thar's good to here

 

[rule303]

No offense to you Remington guys, but seriously, how does a bolt that looks like that get past quality control? That is beyond crude. Glad Remington is taking care of it.

 

[TurtlePhish]

No offense to you Remington guys, but seriously, how does a bolt that looks like that get past quality control? That is beyond crude. Glad Remington is taking care of it.

Remington ain't Remington anymore, sadly. After Cerberus came in, well... yeah.

 

[rdsmith3]

I just tried to replace the extractor on my 870 express with a non-MIM extractor claw from Brownells. The new claw will not pivot freely, so I had to go back to the OEM one. I will have to check if my bolt looks as bad as yours.

Here is the part that would not fit.

 

[Captains1911]

I just tried to replace the extractor on my 870 express with a non-MIM extractor claw from Brownells. The new claw will not pivot freely, so I had to go back to the OEM one. I will have to check if my bolt looks as bad as yours.

Here is the part that would not fit.

Yep, that's the same part from Brownell's and the same problem I had.

 

[Captains1911]

Service at Remington left me a voice mail yesterday saying "we received your bolt and determined the extractor spring was collapsed, therefore we are sending you a new bolt."

I have no idea what the hell they are talking about, there was nothing at all wrong with the spring, but hopefully the new bolt will have a better cut out. I will report back when I receive it.

 

[Virginian]

All the Remington haters are in for a shock if they ever have to try for any "Customer Service" from Beretta or Benelli.

 

[Captains1911]

Well, I FINALLY received my new "bolt assembly" today from remington, here it is pictured with the invoice:

 

[Dave McCracken]

They definitely dropped the ball this time. Email them that pic and see what happens....

 

[TurtlePhish]

Is it a new super-lightweight ultra-compact high-speed-low-drag tactical bolt?

Maybe the spring is strong enough to hold the shell in battery while firing?

 

[micdude]

I think you have the wrong extrator FYI the part you need is Remington part #99046. I think you got the extactor for the 1100 and its a little thicker in design.

Its out of stock but here you go:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/851262/remington-extractor-remington-870-12-20-gauge-express

Also get this:

Remington Extractor Plunger --Remington #: F17432
Remington part #17433 –– 870 EXTRACTOR SPRING