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9mm 1911 ,who would want one ?
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Buddy of mine has a Rock Island GI model in 9mm and it is a sweet shooter. I like a beavertail safety and more modern sights, but did not get hammer bite from his with the GI safety and was able to shoot nice groups with it.
Good to know, Redneck. Thank you!
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I have had a few full size 1911s in 9mm. and .38 Super. But never held on to them very long for some reason or another. Maybe it's because I preferred the slightly shorter and lighter weight Combat Commander and Commander. And then it's a .38 Super as it's easier to convert it to 9mm.
I feel pretty much the same way about the 1911; make mine in .45, possibly because that's all we had years ago to choose from. If you wanted something like a 9mm. 1911 you would usually end up with a Star Model B (a decent gun in it's own right).
I have had a few full size 1911s in 9mm. and .38 Super. But never held on to them very long for some reason or another. Maybe it's because I preferred the slightly shorter and lighter weight Combat Commander and Commander. And then it's a .38 Super as it's easier to convert it to 9mm.
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Caliber won't help you there. If you keep buying those two, you'll never buy a 1911 again period.
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Personally I’m a 1911 purist & mine are all 45s & I’ve got plenty of 9mm pistols if that’s what I want to shoot. The very first time Mrs shot with my Vbob she was shooting lights out with it & liked the pistol a lot but felt the recoil was a bit much. I gave her an early Christmas present of a Dan Wesson Vigil in 9mm a few years back & she loved it. She calls it Virgil, is quite good with it, & after shooting it myself I get the attraction.
After hearing so many rave reviews about the 9mm Tisas Turkish 1911's, I bought one against my better judgement. I really don't care for Turkish guns and am not really a fan of the 1911.
I was getting failure to ejects for the 1st 200rds. Thinking it it was me, I let buddy shoot it. He also had the same failure to eject.
I loaned it for a couple weeks to another friend that likes to tinker. He shot another 200rds through it and it functioned perfectly for him. I still need to test it out.
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Thats been my pretty much experience as well. From what Im seeing, the extractors are the biggest part of it, followed by polishing things like the ramp on the barrel, and the other usual suspects up a bit, and making sure your mags are OK.
I don't know if they just got a bad lot of extractors, or if something else is going on, but its not just the 9mm guns that have an issue there either. The extractor in my 45 Tank Commander just fell out of the gun when I tipped the slide up when I went to take it out. They all have benefited from tuning the extractors, and Ive had to do it a couple of times on a couple of them. The one 9mm I ended up replacing it with a Wilson, and its been a lot better.
The Wilson or another of better-known quality is likely the actual answer here too.
FL-NC
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Apparently lots of people want them, cause they are all over the place at gun shops, shows, and in gun magazines. If they weren't selling then companies would not be making them. I'm not one of the people who want one
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If I want a 1911 in something other than .45, it will be a .38 Super.
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I’ve got two Tisas 9mm 1911’s.
One, a U.S. GI needed the feed ramp polished. Now it’s 100% with FMJ ball, and most JHP. Balks with some Truncated conical bullets.
The other, the extractor needed tweaking. Needed more tension.
Neither cost $400 delivered, including shipping, taxes, and transfer fee…
I put U.S. stamped checkered grips on the U.S. GI. Looks great.
The “Duty “ has” a Kensight adjustable rear to replace the Novak style fixed, and the provided G10 style grips. It has checkered frame and ambidextrous safety. It’s my favorite M1911! (Close behind though is the Taylor’s&Co 10mm!). It kicks my S&W 9mm PC PRO’s Fanny at the firing line! It’ll hold the 10ring of a B27 target at 50yds with cast bullets.
One, a U.S. GI needed the feed ramp polished. Now it’s 100% with FMJ ball, and most JHP. Balks with some Truncated conical bullets.
The other, the extractor needed tweaking. Needed more tension.
Neither cost $400 delivered, including shipping, taxes, and transfer fee…
I put U.S. stamped checkered grips on the U.S. GI. Looks great.
The “Duty “ has” a Kensight adjustable rear to replace the Novak style fixed, and the provided G10 style grips. It has checkered frame and ambidextrous safety. It’s my favorite M1911! (Close behind though is the Taylor’s&Co 10mm!). It kicks my S&W 9mm PC PRO’s Fanny at the firing line! It’ll hold the 10ring of a B27 target at 50yds with cast bullets.
What steps did you take to remedy the feed problems? My only Springfield 1911 is a .45acp and my 9mm Kimber‘s grip safety isn’t comfortable with my fat hands, but I haven’t had feeding problems.
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I got a Ruger LW Commander a few years ago, put in a 12lb spring and it is a fun shooter, accurate and never fails.
RANT mode on:
Having owned & shot 1911's since 1988 - I have a rule. A handgun must feed, fire, and eject OUT OF THE BOX with FMJ Ball ammo.
If it doesn't, the only remedy should be sending it back to manufacturer. It shouldn't need a 200rd to 500rd break in. You should not have to polish the feed ramp, tune the extractor, or buy expensive Wilson 47D magazines for the gun to do those 3 basic things. A working 1911 shouldn't have to cost $3000 either.
1911's of mine that didn't do those 3 basic things:
Colt Series 70 Government Model 45 acp.
Kimber Custom Stainless 45 acp
Kimber TLE II 45 acp
Springfield GI 45 acp
Tisas 9mm
The only one that did: A Rock Island GI 45.
And this is why I just don't care for 1911's anymore. That sweet trigger doesn't overcome it's failures.
CoalTrain49
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I never saw the attraction of a 1911 that wasn't 45 ACP. But then I never saw the attraction of an AR either. Stuck in the 60's I guess.
I'll leave all those for someone else to buy.
I'll leave all those for someone else to buy.
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This is pretty much exactly the way I feel about them, and most any gun for that matter, and regardless of cost.
Whats really annoying is, I can buy a cheap utility type gun like Glock or S&W, etc, and they work fine right out of the box with anything I put in them, yet a $750-$1000 "lower middle class" (and that's just an "average" thing) 1911 still needs help and coddling.
Drob's "RANT" is a mild one too I might add. My list over the years was about 10 times as long, and 25 years ago or so, I only kept two out of that, that I was attached to and knew would work. Currenty, that's 2.75 "Colts".
I came across the first Tisas I got and it was used, and dirt cheap, which is a big part of the problem with them in some respects. They are cheap, and arent worth anything if you have trouble and want to get out of them. You just end up stuck. That gun was the Service model, and I spent more money on ammo, parts, and fiddling with it, and could have bought two new ones for what I ended up spending trying to "fix" it. I was bored and it wasn't going to kick my ass! My ass, and wallet, are a bit bruised and sore though. LOL.
So after that, I bought a "new" gun (glutton for punishment), and while better, it fell right into the "RANT" thing, and off we went again.
At least I knew what to look for and deal with from the Service, so some of the lesson was learned and it was easier.Don't ask me why I bought the Tank Commander, but it fell into the "RANT" thing too, but its been the better of the three.
But, here I am, stuck with three "cheap" guns, that are worth basically nothing in trade or even consignment, and about all they are good for now, is staying on top of 1911 malfunction drill practice.
Now, that old Colt Commander above..... its a keeper.
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Years ago I bought a stainless Taurus PT1911 in 9mm. It shoots anything I Ioad it with reliably. Cheapest factory FMJ steel cased ammo to LSWC hand loads, it just works. Recoil is considerable less than 45. My creaky old wrist appreciates that. I like to shoot steel with the cheap stuff as no case pickup required. I am down to 3 1911 guns, 22LR, 9mm, and 45, all full size. All wear Hogue wrap around finger groove grips. Not great in looks but each gun feels exactly the same. Easiest to use 1911 grip I have ever found.
Howland937
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Ok Boomer. Some of us don't like Glocks or SIG P series or CZ whatevers and just like the feel of a 1911...so we get as many calibers in our favorite design as we've got funds to cover.
A lot of folks feel that way. Maybe the purist perspective that 38 Super (or Super 38 if you're extra pure) was designed specifically for the 1911 platform...or because it's what 9mm shoulda been?
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Buds is not incredibly constant in getting review feedback. Which is where a body is well advised to go search online using the specific brand and model specifically.
I own both Armscor and TISAS (if neither in 9x19) and have no complaints at all. Took them out of the box, cleaned them, then filled mags with ammo, and they all went bang. Rinse & repeat.
An interesting point--for all the variety in 9x19 variants, virtually all of the 9x17 editions are 80% sized.
It seems that there are many better platforms when purchasing a cost effective 9mm. That said, there are reliable 9mm 19/2011s out there. The rub is that it will cost you some money and this usually is not a great way to convince someone to buy something when there are other options that are reliable for much less money. So, in the end, I don’t think we are able to convince the Op to purchase a 9mm 1911.
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