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Hello Folks,
Sometime in the future I will be looking into getting a 1911 in 9mm. This for me will be a fun gun as well as cc. I started in the 70’s with 1911’s in the Navy and now what another one but due to ammo costs I want it in 9 mm. Budget is $1000.00.
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Mitch
 
Hello Folks,
Sometime in the future I will be looking into getting a 1911 in 9mm. This for me will be a fun gun as well as cc. I started in the 70’s with 1911’s in the Navy and now what another one but due to ammo costs I want it in 9 mm. Budget is $1000.00.
Tia
Mitch
A 1911 Kimber Stainless Ultra II Carry in 9MM would fit within that budget figure. I have a 3" that conceals well.
 
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An 9mm aluminum framed Commander is my favorite carry 1911. I have a 9mm Commander Vigil but that's a little more than your budget. Colt takes a beating but I have a Colt and it's one of my best guns. It has 27K through it, runs flawlessly, and is very accurate. The Colt was money well spent for me.

Read some reviews on different 1911's. Some won't run. I have one that won't run. I won't say the brand name on this forum. I have been attacked here in the past for that.
 
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I have a Dan Wesson Guardian in 9mm which is my favorite 9mm 1911 to shoot. Would make a great carry gun. Probably a bit more than your budget.

Rock Island CCO in 9mm if you can find one.
Alloy officer frame with a Commander slide. Have one and love it, been totally reliable and is my wife's daily carry gun. Under your budget.

I'm not a fan of the 3/3.5" 1911's they can be a pain in the donkey. If I wanted something that small I'd go with a Sig Sauer P938, smaller, lighter, same capacity.
 
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I currently have several examples, made by Springfield, Rock Island, and Kimber, all 5” versions. I have owned, but have sold, 4 inch and 3 inch 9mm 1911s (including a Colt Commander).

The RIA Tactical was the least expensive, and it works well enough as long as you don’t really feel compelled to change anything on it. It’s a pretty basic gun that does what you ask of it. My principal complaint with it, other than the liberal dimensional tolerances endemic to all RIA 1911s, is the ambidextrous thumb safety - I detest it. If I had to find another fault, it would be the finish - it’s pretty poor but functional.

The Springfield Loaded, like most all Springfields, suffered from extractor clocking but that was an easy enough fix, and it’s been reliable as a range toy. I won’t carry it because it lacks a proper firing pin safety.

The Kimber Custom II (5”) is my favorite, both because it is satisfyingly reliable and well-built, and because it was also quite affordable. When I bought the Springfield, Kimber was asking almost $1000 for the equivalent Custom II. Last time I checked, Kimber dropped over $200 off of that price and it neatly splits the space between the Rock Island and the Springfield. The Kimber has a proper firing pin safety, and Kimber has long since worked out any of the kinks associated with their MIM process.
 
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I bought an Armscor RIA 9mm 1911 and I'm very happy with it. It's a Rock Standard FS 9mm which lists for only $599. Of course the street price is lower. If you are looking for a good shooter and not a show piece you might want to take a look at the Rock Island 1911s.
 
I'm not a good enough shooter to need anything better than my RIA's and Stars. They all shoot better than I do.

I just thought I'd mention, for those who may have read otherwise, that I've had zero problems with my 1911 style pistols in 9mm.

Maybe there were common problems with them in the ancient past, but apparently they've been straightened out by now. :)
 
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I'll go against the grain on custom 1911's with a tight slide to frame fit. It is NOT necessary to have for accuracy and also degrades reliability (until broken in). I was issued and shot enough of the old worn out "battle rattle" 1911A1's while in the Army. As long as the barrel to slide fit is good, then the slide to frame fit can be pretty loose and still be an accurate pistol.

I'll take the old battle rattle GI issued 1911's or a Rock Island Armory pistol over a 1911 with a tight slide to frame fit every time. Plus I have shot my "cheap" RIA next to expensive custom 1911's and those were not anymore accurate than my RIA. Plus the RIA didn't have any malfunctions like the more expensive and tight pistols.
 
As an aside, I have come to believe that one of the critical factors in having a reliable 9 mm 1911 is magazine selection. I have had excellent luck using the Metalform/Springfield magazine with the integral front feed ramp.

Rather than block the magazine from the rear to accommodate the shorter OAL of the tne 9X19 round, they pinch at the front. This provides better timing for the feed event, and it allows the front of the magazine body to act as a feed ramp to help get the round position properly for feeding. It’s a smart design.
 
1911 pistols in anything but 45 or maybe 38 super just seem "off" to me. I do have a Star BM in 9mm, sort of like a commander without a grip safety.

I feel the same way but still bought a RIA 9mm. I did get a 38 Super barrel for it though. It is nice having both barrels.

On the old Star pistols, I prefer the Model A in 9mm Largo. I like my Star Model A Super.
 
I'll go against the grain on custom 1911's with a tight slide to frame fit. It is NOT necessary to have for accuracy and also degrades reliability (until broken in). I was issued and shot enough of the old worn out "battle rattle" 1911A1's while in the Army. As long as the barrel to slide fit is good, then the slide to frame fit can be pretty loose and still be an accurate pistol.

I'll take the old battle rattle GI issued 1911's or a Rock Island Armory pistol over a 1911 with a tight slide to frame fit every time. Plus I have shot my "cheap" RIA next to expensive custom 1911's and those were not anymore accurate than my RIA. Plus the RIA didn't have any malfunctions like the more expensive and tight pistols.

I'll agree with the slide/frame comment.

My lightweight Colt Commander rattles worse than any handgun I've ever owned, but it's far and away the most accurate semi auto I've ever shot.
 
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I've had 9mm 1911s of one kind or another since the '70s; Colt, Kimber, STI, Springfield, Dan Wesson, etc. Had more than one of most of these.

I've come to much prefer guns with the integrally ramped barrels, as opposed to the traditional Colt type unramped barrels, for any of the 9mm, 10mm, 38 Super, i.e., higher pressure cartridges. This, for superior case head support, and feed reliability with any appropriate bullet weight, profile, velocity level, etc.

PS, Like rbernie, I prefer the Metal Form Springfield "front ramp" type 9mm magazines. For years, these have been my favorite in any manufactuer's 9mm 1911 pistols. Should I need more 9mm 1911 type magazines, this is the type I would still purchase. There is something to that front ramp design. Wish I'd thought of it, or at last had it available years ago when I was struggling to get my Colts, with unramped barrels, to be reliable...

PPS, the full size Kimber stainless 9mms I've had functioned flawlessly from Day 1 with any appropriate ammunition. I would think that similar guns might be found for 1K or less new or used. The bull barrel STI Trojan I had was also excellent all around, but might be a little more $. The Dan Wessons are a cut above most production 1911s, but are higher $ still. My one Springfield production model, a Loaded Target Model, was problematical, but mine may have just been a late Friday afternoon gun. Some of the Springfields can still be had for less than 1K, so I'd still consider one, were I in the market.
 
Another one to consider would be SA's EMP or EMP4 if you want a compact or Commander-size pistol. I have a EMP-4 in 9mm and love it, it shoots well and fits my hand better than the full-size frame. Ambidextrous slide safety, holds 10+1, comes with three magazines. Here it is next to a fullsize 1911 for comparison.
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There are a lot of great options, most of which were already mentioned above.

I’ll add two good choices for a first time 9mm 1911 buyer; the Springfield Armory Ronin 4.25” model with the alloy frame, and the Kimber Stainless Target II 5” which is all-stainless.

The Kimber is at or just above your price point, I paid $1,050 plus tax, reg etc. It is a full sized, all steel 1911 with an adjustable rear sight and a fiber optic front. Recoil is nil, the bullet puts rounds right where I aim and it’s been 100 pct reliable since the first shot.

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The Ronin is a bit less expensive, I paid 750 or thereabouts for it in mid-2020. It’s a bit more of a carry-combat style, with no-snag 3-dot sights and a memory-bump grip safety. The shorter and lighter Ronin has a tad more muzzle flip than the heavier Kimber, but it’s not much of a kick at all. It, too is very accurate, better than I am on most days for sure. FBB40CBC-09C8-40A6-A875-1E52CA6F64F6.jpeg C564A6F9-FC6D-48DF-ADDF-7A3B3BC00599.jpeg

The other two-tone is a Kimber Ultra Carry II. It’s also a 9mm, but with a 3” barrel. This gun isn’t as easy to shoot well, there is more muzzle flip and the sight radius is short. It’s a good carry option for a practiced ccw holder, but for a first time buyer I’d honestly recommend one of the larger guns as a starter.

Good luck, let us know what you get snd how it shoots for you when you get one. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
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