A day at the range....AGGHHHHH

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Okiecruffler

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Okay, first person who says a bad day at the range beats a good day at work owes me a new spotting scope.
Hit the range early this morning thinking no one would be there. Mistake number 1. a good dozen people there already, but at least there was a bench in front of the 100 yrd berm. So I go straight down and set up my target stand at 100. The yahoos next to me set there stand up at 25yrds, at an angle so that everytime they shot the bullet would go thu and hit right at the base of my stand, throwing mud and blowing my targets off. But they promised to move it the next time they went down. :rolleyes:
Ran into pressure problems with the 6tcu, then tried some 218 loads with 4227. I could have thrown them more accurately. Couldn't keep 5 shots on a 6 inch paper plate.
But at least the yahoos next to me packed up and left. They were replaced by a fella in full SWAT tackycool gear. We go down to set up our targets, he sets his up at 25, but at least at a direct angle to the bench. We walk back to the line and call to go hot. There are 4 benches, there's me, then Bruce Willis, then a buncha farmer types at the last 2 benches shooting the breeze. So I sit down and change over to my old standard 218 load and set to work spinning my spinner. After about 3 shots I notice the man in black staring at me. So I stop and ask if he needs to go back down range.
"No, I'm just waiting to see when you're going to let me shoot."
Well I figure he must be wanting a little quiet to sight in, so I hold off. He proceeds to run 3 mags thru his glock just as fast as he can. Well I guess he's sighted in after all those shots. He sits down and starts loading mags so I send a few more rounds downrange. I hear him say, "Well, I guess I was done." I look over and he's glaring at me thru those dark glasses again. Now he even has the attention of the good old boys down the line.
Now I'm getting old and I don't care to be put upon any more than the next guy, so I stand up and tell him that I'm not sure where he usually shoots, but out here folks shoot when the range is hot and pretty much mind their own business.
He says, "It's funny how some people can still be rude even when they know other people around have weapons."
I don't threaten anymore, I'm old and tired. So I just said, "You keep up that mindset friend and you'll be famous." Then I sat down and went back to spinning that spinner. He glared at me a few more minutes, then loaded up and left. Even left his cardboard box out on the range, some people just have no manners.
Then I go to set the sights on my Dan Wesson 22, except I left my screwdriver at home, so all I can do is see how far off the sights are. At that point I decide enough is enough and start packing up. But the day ain't over yet. In the process of packing up I knock my spotting scope off the bench and manage to crack the lens. Some days you're the dog, somedays you're the hydrant. Wish I had been wearing a slicker today.
 
wow...and to think he threated you...knowing there are other people around with guns...

What an ass. You're going to shoot someone for going to a range, and shooting? Better luck next time.
 
"No, I'm just waiting to see when you're going to let me shoot."

WTH? The range is hot pal, shoot whenever you want. You don't need MY permission.

Seriously, what was he waiting on?
 
Was his objection actually the sound of other folk's gunfire?
You know, we didn't sit down to discuss it, but I got the impression he thought we were all supposed to line up and take turns like good kids. Now I don't mind holding off if someone is trying to sight in, some folks need the focus. I'm about to give up on public ranges all together. A few weeks back I was setting up targets when a couple of folks started shooting clays over my head. Usually if I go early I either have the place to myself or I have to put up with some fella who's a pleasure to talk to and a safe shooter to boot.
 
One more reason I go to the range with range safety officers and strict rule enforcement.
 
Did his tacticool outfit have any actual markings or was he a true mall ninja wannabe?

Some people defy logical explanation. There's just no rhyme or reason to their skewed mindset. Sounds like you ran into one.

Dope
 
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"No, I'm just waiting to see when you're going to let me shoot."

WTH? The range is hot pal, shoot whenever you want. You don't need MY permission.

Seriously, what was he waiting on?

Yeah, what the hell? I try to be nice and tell people just coming on to our range that they might want to sit to my left, as I shoot a WASR-10, and used to shoot a mini-14, both of which like to pummel people to the right with spent casings. (And I mean a few benches to the right ;) ) I also try to take the last bench to the right if it's open. Other than that, sorry man, it's a shooting range. Hope you're wearing your eye and ear protection.

But hey! I wear my new Blackhawk! vest to the range now. It's got pockets for all my tools, spare mags, a flashlight (although I use it to inspect my barrel and chamber instead of blinding people), and a snickers bar. It also has a nice pad to protect my shoulder, and the vest and belt help my back when I am standing and shooting for extended periods. And as a bonus, I feel like I work for the SGC. So much hate for fun tactical wear. :(
 
So I get the impression that you're a regular at this range, and probably familiar with their SOP.

Captain Cool shows up and you fail to
A) read his mind
B) do it like they did at the other place he used to go
C) fall all over his obviously impressive self
D) all of the above

No wonder he got upset. Poor guy...
 
I think I would have called the police on him. He threatened you with a deadly weapon.
 
I'm wondering what you left out of the story.

You repeatedly called the first set of people "yahoos" and I didnt' see anything that they did wrong other than setting a target in such a manner that it interfered with you..... and then made an effort to rectify it.

Frankly, your attitude here regarding them seems a bit overboard.

Perhaps your interaction with the next guy is indicative of some manner of communication that you have failed to divulge.

Maybe its all karma.

Who knows.


-- John
 
So much hate for fun tactical wear.
Not true. Just last week when I was out I sat for quite some time with a young man who was in full gear. We discussed shooting, the currnet state of quail hunting and what we thought our chances were in the deer season this year. I even gave him one of my gatoraids (Note, if you're going to wear full black gear in 90 degree heat you might want to put some water in one of those pockets.) I will say that by and large if a guy steps out in full attack gear I can expect alot of uncontrolled rapid shooting and locker room bravado. But not everytime. I've also sat next to folks in full gear who were just incrediable shots.

And I wasn't feeling real threatened, like I said, I already saw him shoot.
 
You repeatedly called the first set of people "yahoos" and I didnt' see anything that they did wrong other than setting a target in such a manner that it interfered with you..... and then made an effort to rectify it.
Sitting up a target at the wrong angle is not a problem, I've done it myself from time to time. But to continue shooting, knocking your neighbor's target off his stand is another thing entirely. If you see this as perfectly Okie dokie then you are a better man than I and you'll get a better seat in heaven.
Let's see if I can divulge my entire conversation with the fella before the situation. I believe I said "Good morning" then offered to let him use my ink dobber when I saw he was drawing a target on his box with a ball point pen. Which he used by the way. Well, reading it now I see your point, I'd have been pissed too.
 
"No, I'm just waiting to see when you're going to let me shoot."
I admit that I haven't shot at all that many different ranges. But I've never yet seen one where anybody has asked my permission to shoot once the range went hot. I suppose the appropriate response would have been, "Any old time you're ready, Sir. Fire at will until somebody calls for a cold range."
 
Well... You should find yourself a new range. I find that the extra 30 minutes and gas money more than make up for the quiet time I get when I'm out by myself.

Also, give us our basketball team back.:neener:
 
"No, I'm just waiting to see when you're going to let me shoot."

I've got it. He thought he was at a bowling alley. My dad always taught me that you never bowl when the guy/girl in the lane next to you is in the process of bowling (Now if he had only taught me to bowl well too!). So this guy thought he was bowling and that it would be rude to shoot while the guy next to you was shooting. Was he using pins for targets?:p
 
Yeah, I guess I'm confused why we thought he needed a "turn" to shoot. If the range is hot, have at it.

Luckily I have pretty good luck at my local range. Most folks are nice and very knowledgable. I do run into the occasional younger person who gets a jam and sweeps the entire firing line. But those people are usually dealt with quickly by the other patrons (RO is only on duty on weekends).
 
Sounds like a bad day at the range.
Today you were the hydrant ! :D
Hope you have a better holiday weekend !!
 
Sounds like a bad day at the range.
Today you were the hydrant !
Hope you have a better holiday weekend !!

Now what Okiecruffler described here is a REAL range bully.:neener: Contrary to the one in the original "range bully" thread we had here a few days ago. The other one was an individual with Freudian control issues.
 
Well, I can't believe no one has posted how awesome Okiecruffler is.

John, you're a pretty awesome guy. I think you handled this situation pretty well.

Is it just me, or is the shooting world becoming more antisocial. I got into shooting at ranges in the early 90s and seldom had a problem with anyone. Or saw anyone have a problem. Maybe I was just lucky.
 
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