A "gun-friendly" restaurant?

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JTHunter

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A few weeks ago, I posed a question to the managers of two local Steak & Shake restaurants as to what the corporate policy was concerning firearms in those states that allow it (this is in Illinois - no carry). They didn't know and referred me to the website.
Unfortunately, there was no "Contact Us" link on the Steak & Shake site BUT there was a link to Biglari Holdings which also owns Western Sizzlin steakhouses.
Here's my letter:


Sardar Biglari
Chairman of the Board & CEO
17802 IH 10 West, Suite 400
San Antonio, Texas 78257

Dear Mr. Biglari,

Recently, a manager in one of your Steak & Shake franchises was asked a question that he was unable (or unwilling) to answer. He suggested contacting corporate to try and find the answer.

In searching up the Steak & Shake website, there was no “Contact Us” option to be found. However, there was the link to Biglari Holdings, which also failed to have a “Contact Us” option, hence this letter.

In reading the information at the Holdings website, I came across this piece of information which may have a bearing on the question, particularly, the first two sentences.

III. Ethical Standards

A. Compliance with Applicable Law

Compliance with the law is essential to the Company’s ethical obligations. Covered Persons must obey the laws of the United States and of the states, counties and cities in which the Company conducts business. (emphasis added) While a Covered Person may not know the details of every rule and regulation to which the Company’s activities are subject, all such persons should know enough about the applicable law to know when to seek the help of a supervisor or the Company’s legal counsel.

Based on those two sentences, my question to you sir is, in the 49 States that allow either “Open Carry” or “Concealed Carry” of firearms, do your restaurants and franchises comply with those laws, or do you deny potential customers entry if they are lawfully armed? Remember, this applies only to those people that are already in compliance with the laws in their areas. Anybody intent on causing mayhem in one of your restaurants is most likely already violating the law in some fashion and no sign on the door is going to hinder them in any way.

I have no desire to see one of your operations in the news the way Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas did years ago, but if your restaurants do deny potential customers entry on that basis, it makes one wonder just how well that “compliance” is actually followed.

I ask you again, do your restaurants allow law-abiding customers to bring their firearms with them or not?

Sincerely yours,

Late last week, I got a reply so I scanned it into my computer as a picture. In case there are any questions at any of these restaurants in your area, having this letter from "Corporate" might come in handy. :D
 

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Here in Oklahoma, I could care less what the restaurant, or any other business for that matter, thinks about concealed carry. See, no gun signs carry no weight whatsoever unless it's an already prohibited entity (post office, schools, etc).

Here in OK, concealed means concealed. If someone sees you carrying they can ask you to leave. If you refuse, then there's an issue. They can have you cited for trespassing. But the gun is a non-issue.
 
What prompted your letter? It seems to me if the establishment didn't allow firearms that would be prominently posted at the entrance.

In Texas, an establishment has to legally post their no-carry intentions. Otherwise, there's no problem. I wouldn't go out of my way to tell anyone, "Hey, did you know you weren't prohibiting concealed carry?"

Recently, a manager in one of your Steak & Shake franchises was asked a question that he was unable (or unwilling) to answer.

Why did you find it necessary to imply the manager was withholding something?
 
Like others here, I don't know what precipitated your inquiry, but that does appear to be a simple and well-put response.
We don't have that issue much here in Florida, but many establishments in other locales could do well to follow that example.
 
Why would you expect a manager in a no-carry state to know what the company's policy is in states that do allow carry? It's a silly premise.
 
Here in Texas, we see quite a few businesses who clearly have no idea what some of their firearm related signage really means. Under Texas law, there are very specific regulations regarding placement, verbage and even size and contrast of the lettering that affect the signs' validity.
Unless I can see a 'net sum gain' for our side, I never correct them on these points of detail. I think it was Napoleon who said "never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake".

So if they don't post a proper prohibition sign or any sign at all, why would you call their attention to the matter in the first place. Just pay attention to any signs they throw up and act on them accordingly.
 
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