A Legion of a Different Stripe

Havok7416

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Several years ago I decided to show my appreciation to an old friend who I felt deserved a big thank you from me. The way I chose to do so was to get him a nice pistol. In the end the whole project took about 3-4 years and it went through multiple iterations. I rather quickly settled on a 1911; a plastic gun simply didn't seem suitable for a presentation gun and besides, there are lots of customizations to the platform. I originally was looking at an Ed Brown 9mm, but over time I settled on a Springfield Range Officer 9mm not due to price, but because the lead time from the custom shops didn't fit into the timeframe I needed to get the gun ready and present it. The plus side to this "downgrade" was that I got to bring my buddy along when I went to pick up the base gun at the store, although he had no idea the gun was actually for him (his exact words were: "Man, I wish I had the cash to buy something like that"). In the end he was presented with a very nice gun with custom finish, trigger, sights and inscription on the slide, plus grips to match the finish and a whole pile of ammo. I don't have any pictures of his gun I can post, but needless to say he was blown away by the whole thing.

The side effect of all that work was that it planted the seed for me to also get my very own custom - or at least semi-custom - pistol. Again I started at Ed Brown, but a buddy at the range pointed out I that I couldn't likely do much better than whatever I was shooting at that moment (it was a Makarov oddly, but the center of the target was simply gone). He had a pretty good point, but I still wanted something "nice". Until recently my focus was on a Stealth Arms Platypus, a milled, semi-custom 2011 that uses Glock 17 magazines.

That all changed when I walked into my local shop and found an odd colored gun in the case. This shop has done lots of work for me over the years and I actually drive 40 minutes out of my way to do virtually all of my gun-related business with them. The gun in question turned out to be a Sig P320 X-Carry Legion with a spare Wilson Combat full size grip frame in addition to the regular gray frame with tungsten insert. The slide and WC frame are finished in Jesse James Blue. This started out as a compact gun (4.6" barrel), so the slide doesn't reach the end of the WC frame. To fix that they installed a Faxon compensator and cut the lower face of it so it angles into the frame. They also installed a Sig Romeo1 Pro optic with shield while including the original rear sight plate. While the gun ships with (3) 17-round magazines, the shop included 4 and at $40-50 per mag this was a nice bonus. The best part was that they gave me a deal since I shop there often and I basically ended up buying the basic gun and getting all the extras for free.

I realize this is a far cry from an Ed Brown or similar pistol and it certainly won't suit everyone's taste. The color caught my eye first, but I was sold on it when I learned what they had done with the gun using what amounts to the spare parts they had laying around. I am always happy with their work and I know I'll have more satisfaction shooting a gun that was locally customized. Range report to follow soon!

In the pictures below the gun is sporting a "gas pedal" takedown lever but that is no longer installed as it does a lefty like me no good. The color is closer to the pale blue than the bright blue in the mix-match photo.
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I don't see a problem with the color at all. In fact, I'd almost prefer the brighter appearance of the bottom pic, but the pale hue is just fine. If going for different, all out is the only way to go. There does happen to be a fully Tiffany (think aquamarine) blue Ruger MKIV and a MKIII with a purple frame in my safe. Neither of them technically belong to me, but I did order up the work.
 
The 320 X-Carry Legions are excellent pistols. Anyone who's actually had the chance to shoot one of these understands. I feel like there's been so much stupid noise about the 320 that most shooters haven't had occasion - or believe what they read on the internet - to actually get out and try these pistols out. Terrific carry pistols, great for competition, superb triggers, great ergonomics... DId I mention they have superb triggers?
 
I don't see a problem with the color at all. In fact, I'd almost prefer the brighter appearance of the bottom pic, but the pale hue is just fine. If going for different, all out is the only way to go. There does happen to be a fully Tiffany (think aquamarine) blue Ruger MKIV and a MKIII with a purple frame in my safe. Neither of them technically belong to me, but I did order up the work.
I agree, the brighter color would have been preferable but it's still nice the way it is.
The 320 X-Carry Legions are excellent pistols. Anyone who's actually had the chance to shoot one of these understands. I feel like there's been so much stupid noise about the 320 that most shooters haven't had occasion - or believe what they read on the internet - to actually get out and try these pistols out. Terrific carry pistols, great for competition, superb triggers, great ergonomics... DId I mention they have superb triggers?
This is actually my 3rd P320, although I didn't end up keeping the other 2. I agree they are good guns, but the Legions are obviously a step above.

The trigger is in fact phenomenal. I showed the gun to a friend with a regular P320 (actually one of my old ones) and he immediately wanted to know how to get a similar trigger.
 
Just wrapped up a range trip with the Legion (among other guns). I didn't even get through a full magazine due to the recoil spring. The gun was already hard to rack and coupled with the comp it was just too much to overcome. I'll have to track down a lighter spring and try again.
 
Dang sorry to hear about the bad luck at the range but that is a very nice pistol proof that it pays to buy local and be loyal to a LGS
 
The gun was already hard to rack and coupled with the comp it was just too much to overcome. I'll have to track down a lighter spring and try again.
The full sized P320 has always been a bit over sprung. The easiest way to correct that is to convert to a 1911 type full length recoil spring guide rod and a package of 1911 springs
 
The full sized P320 has always been a bit over sprung. The easiest way to correct that is to convert to a 1911 type full length recoil spring guide rod and a package of 1911 springs
I wasn't aware you could substitute 1911 springs in the P320. I have been on the go most of the day and haven't had a chance to start looking yet.
 
I wasn't aware you could substitute 1911 springs in the P320.
The P320 comes with a captive RSA. If you want to use 1911 springs, you'll lose that RSA and have an non-captive spring on a replacement guide rod.

It's a popular modification in competition to tune your muzzle flip characteristics to your preferred load
 
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I ordered an X-Carry (the slide is the compact model) recoil tuning kit, which comes with 4 springs and a new guide rod assembly. Weights range from 18 lbs down to 11 lbs. Something in there ought to run this gun just fine.
 
Well I finally got the gun to run. I put a 13lb spring in it but it still wouldn't cycle, so I ended up putting an 11lb spring in. The red dot was shooting a bit high as well but that was an easy fix. Pardon my groups, I was more focused on getting the gun to run. Also the picture seems to show rust on the barrel and a clogged comp port. I can assure anyone concerned that these are in fact camera distortions and the gun is in good shape. Shown after 204 rounds were sent downrange. 20230823_110424.jpg 20230823_110559.jpg
 
Got the Legion back out. To my surprise it started having trouble again going into battery. I changed the bullet profile and it continued sporadically. It occasionally fails to go fully into battery and I'm thinking the extractor spring needs changed or tweaked. I'm working with my gunsmith and will post back here once I find the issue.
 
That was something I hadn't gotten to yet. I have a few boxes of factory ammo somewhere but all the 9mm ammo I've used for years has been reloaded. I guess I could always buy some next time I go to the range too. Chances are good though that this is a mechanical issue.
 
Took the gun out again. Before I did so I scrounged up a box of factory ammo at the house. The gun still wouldn't go fully into battery at the house, so I made a trip to my gunsmith. We were able to determine that the optic (actually the holes usually used to mount the iron sights) in conjunction with the stupid mechanism to prevent drop fires was causing the gun to intermittently hang up just shy of lockup. We were able to replicate the failure almost 100% of the time with the gun upside down.

The solution was for my gunsmith to do some judicious filing on the offending parts. Then he put the OEM 18-pound recoil spring in and asked me to run a few rounds through the gun and see what happened. I bought an S&B 50-round box at the range which was in addition to 34 rounds in the mags and 10 loose test rounds (94 rounds total). The first 6 or 7 rounds fired resulted in stovepipes and I thought the gun might be oversprung again, but then the gun started cycling properly for the remaining ~87 rounds. Further testing will be conducted but I didn't have the time or ammo to continue.

I did notice an odd tendency for this gun to get extremely hot just forward/above of the trigger guard while firing, something I've never noticed on any of my previous P320-series guns (or my P250 for that matter). It doesn't impede shooting in any way but it is definitely noticeable, about on par with my HK P7 after a few magazines.
 
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