a LEO funny

[Neener Neener]

Well, I was out on the scene of an accident last night (Vol. FF) and happened to notice our local Sheriff's Deputies were carrying different pistols. Some were carrying Glocks, most full sized, one carried and 9mm sub, and the others were carrying 1911s. I found it odd they were different, but figured they either got to choose their weapon or use a personal weapon. So I asked.......I was told by one they were all getting 1911s. I asked if they were SA, because I recognized the grips on one. He told me either Springfields or Colts. I asked him if the Springfield was the Loaded model......uh-oh.......he said, "Yeah, it's loaded. It has 7 or 8 rounds in it." I informed him I meant if it was the version with yada-yada-yada (explaining features). His response? "I don't know. I just know it goes 'BANG' when I shoot it." One of his buddies was standing there agreeing with him. I can't believe someone whose life potentially depends on what's strapped to their side doesn't know more about the lifeline. I just walked away in amazement.

 

[ADKWOODSMAN]

LEO don't take this wrong, but many in law enforcement are not shooters and only cary a gun because its part of the job.

 

[hrgrisso]

All Due Respect

I have had that same situation play out near identically dozens of times in conversations with Border Patrol Agents, Customs Officers, Sherriffs Deputy's and more.

But on the plus side, most of the time I've been able to find numerous gunnies in each agency where idiots were found.

 

[Black Knight]

Having been an instructor for private security I can say it is worse for private security officers. Some companies issued the handgun and some allowed employees to provide their own. I have seen some that were to say the least extremely well used. One was even used as a hammer before it got to the range. Most could only tell you the caliber and nothing more.

 

[El Tejon]

You have to talk to the FTU to find the gun nuts.

The rest are just spear carriers, not spear lovers.

 

[wideym]

I met an armed security guard once who was carrying a High point pistol pistol in crappy holster. I asked him why he a High point instead of better, more reliable pistol. He told me that he wouldn't ever need it so why spend any more money than he had to.

 

[dhoomonyou]

I was at the range once, and the local PD was there

I asked the female deputy in the next lane what kind of ammo she was using in her GLOCK 23.

SHE responded "Brass colored".

Uh huh.

 

[plexreticle]

They drive vehicles also, would you expect them to know the intimate details of its construction?

 

[Bob79]

Yeah I don't see it as such a big deal. So the guy didn't know everything about the gun. As long as he can shoot it well enough, then thats all there is needed to know.

Like plexreticle said, are going to ask him to tell you about all the electronic parts in his radio too?

 

[TAB]

They drive vehicles also, would you expect them to know the intimate details of its construction?

no, but I would execpt them to know the make and model of said car. Also how to operate that car safely. I would also expect them to know basic maintance of said car... IE how to fill it up with gas, check the fluids, maybe even... wait for it... change a tire.

 

[Kind of Blued]

I'm suprised they knew what a 1911 is. Not bashing or being sarcastic. I'm just saying, normal people don't know what "A 1911" is and most cops are normal people.

 

[mavracer]

They drive vehicles also, would you expect them to know the intimate details of its construction?

construction no but they might need to know if the dimmer switch is on the floor or column.so yes I do expect them to know the features and operation of the equipment required to do their job.excusing this is not on the high road.

 

[dhoomonyou]

I did not ask her the chemical composition of the polymer or the temp that the gunpowder burns at.

ANY shooter should know what ammo they are using, other than the color.

 

[plexreticle]

no, but I would execpt them to know the make and model of said car. Also how to operate that car safely. I would also expect them to know basic maintance of said car... IE how to fill it up with gas, check the fluids, maybe even... wait for it... change a tire.

Springfield or Colts, 45 ACP, it goes BANG when hes shoot it. So what he doesn't know what package or cute name the factory gives it. OP didn't say anything about how to use it. It's implied that the guy can use it since he qualifies with it at some point.

Just like hes probably doesn't know what cute name his next car is going to have. Who cares it drives, it's implied he can do the stuff you stated above since its part of his job.

He's probably the kind of guy that uses his brain power on important stuff about his job not cute lil terms and gadgets related to his sidearm.

 

[TAB]

hmmm last I checked part of police work is being able to id cars... if they can't even id thier own car, what chance do they have od iding some one elses?

 

[plexreticle]

I did not ask her the chemical composition of the polymer or the temp that the gunpowder burns at.

ANY shooter should know what ammo they are using, other than the color.

It's a 1911 45 ACP made by Colt or Springfield, issue ammo. He's a Cop not a IPSC champ or bullseye shooter. What does he need to know?

 

[BikerRN]

You will find that any law enforcement agaency is a microcosm of the society it is drawn from. The gun is just a "tool" that is sometimes used at work, but usually not very often. While it may be a "life saving device" there are other tools that are used more often.

Look at it this way: Do you have a fire exstinquisher in your home? That is a potentially life saving device that one would use only in the worst of circumstances. When was the last time you used or practiced with your fire exstinquisher?

If guns and shooting are common in your area then you have a better chance of a local LEO being a "gunnie" but don't count on it. I have no idea about my issued duty weapon as I only carry it when I have to. I'd much rather spend my time and efforts on a gun I like. I can't even tell you what model it is, but I know it's a Berretta.

BikerRN

 

[Trempel]

LEO don't take this wrong, but many in law enforcement are not shooters and only cary a gun because its part of the job.

And the smallest part of the job at that. Vast majority of cops in the US will never fire a weapon outside of range time/training. On the other hand, the cuffs, baton, OC, radio and whatever else they carry on the Batman belt gets used a lot more often. To most it's a tool, just like all the other stuff they carry. They know how to operate it, but just like some electronics nerd shouldn't expect them to know all the details about the $1000 encrypted radio on their belt, the gunnies should understand that most cops aren't as knowledgeable about the gun in the holster.

 

[mavracer]

OP didn't say anything about how to use it.

with all due respect he said features which on a loaded SA include ambi safetys and different sights.I'm real dissapointed you don't think it's important.

 

[mavracer]

Look at it this way: Do you have a fire exstinquisher in your home? That is a potentially life saving device that one would use only in the worst of circumstances. When was the last time you used or practiced with your fire exstinquisher?

yes I know where it is how to pull the pin and to point it at the base of the fire as do my children.

If guns and shooting are common in your area then you have a better chance of a local LEO being a "gunnie" but don't count on it. I have no idea about my issued duty weapon as I only carry it when I have to. I'd much rather spend my time and efforts on a gun I like. I can't even tell you what model it is, but I know it's a Berretta.

thats not somthing to be proud of and its Beretta.

 

[Dgreno]

Neener, Please check your PM's...

 

[BikerRN]

mavracer

thats not somthing to be proud of and its Beretta.

OK, so my spelling sucks.

The point I was trying to make, which apparently was lost on you, was the gun I am issued is just a tool. When I need it to go Bang, that's what it has to do. Other than that I don't care about it. Yes, I do take care of my tools and ensure that they work properly.

I have a Motorola Radio that I use more than a gun. What do I know about it? Not much, except that when I push the little button on the side it allows me to communicate with others that are on the same frequency.

I like to shoot, like it a lot in fact. However, since I only carry the issued weapon a third of the time I only devote a third of my time with that weapon as far as practice and training. I'd much rather carry one of my personal weapons, and do off duty. However, skills from one of my personal weapons transition over to the duty weapon easily, so in a sense I am training for using the duty weapon as well.

The handgun is just a tool, nothing more, nothing less. I'd much rather study and practice tactics since that is a big component of winning a gunfight. I really don't care what the issue weapon is, as long as it's reliable and I feel confident that I can hit my intended target with it. I can hit my target, both IRL and at the Range.

BikerRN

 

[plexreticle]

with all due respect he said features which on a loaded SA include ambi safetys and different sights.I'm real dissapointed you don't think it's important.

It really isn't that important. No reason to be disappointed.

I think he'll manage to figure out the sights and ambi safety if his new sidearm is so equipped.

 

[mavracer]

The point I was trying to make, which apparently was lost on you, was the gun I am issued is just a tool. When I need it to go Bang, that's what it has to do. Other than that I don't care about it. Yes, I do take care of my tools and ensure that they work properly.

I think he'll manage to figure out the sights and ambi safety if his new sidearm is so equipped.

Hey guy's know what your right and I use tools also at my job.you know what a drill motor is a drill motor RPM's who cares I'll just grab whichever to drill the thrust reverser panels for the jumbo jet.whats a couple oversize holes.
I'm done, If you want to condone ignorance,and are willing to accept medeocrity I won't waste any more time on you.But one last thing read the definition in my signature line.

 

[-v-]

I'm going to have to agree with BikerRN. Its a tool, and as long as you know how to use it effectively, so what if you don't know every minutia of nomenclature about it. I'm sure all of us use a computer at work, how many of us can describe the logic gates and how they operate in the CPU? Probably less then 0.01%, and that's a tool that we use a lot more often then a firearm. Heck, a computer or a hiccup in one can do a lot to seriously wreck our lives. Ever see all your life savings suddenly disappear because the processor had a hiccup? Medical drip machines accidentally euthanizing grandma with pain-killers because a wrong logic function in the programing didn't stop its injection cycle in time? (This was actually a real case too, a small bug in software, literally one wrong letter caused the machines to not stop at the right dose, resulting in a number of people nodding off to sleep permanently!) But what do we all really need to know? When you click on an icon on your computer, it opens and you can do your work. We don't really need to know what the underlying programing is behind it or how the hardware works to make it possible to see or read it.