A lot of fun, packed into just 6 and a half Ounces
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P32 loaded with 8 rds of Underwood Defender
Pico with 7 rounds
P32 loaded with 8 rds of Underwood Defender
Pico with 7 rounds
Keltec will put a cerekote finish on it for a reasonable price. I forget how much. And only the slide gets sent in so shipping is cheap as it’s only a “part”.
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I'm not really a fan of the P3-AT but I really like my P-32. I have had mine for about 10 years and never a problem. At only 6.6oz it's hard to believe its a real gun but it's not hard to fire and fire well. Great gun at a great price!
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My KT P32 is the gun that I carry when I can't carry a gun.
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Nah, no one's going to flame you over a safety concern. Due to the thinness of the P32, I can only draw it by grasping the handle with the thumb and middle finger. One removed, I then get a better purchase on it and my index finger is lined up along side the frame. The index finger isn't ever in the region of the trigger during the draw and the travel during drawing is in the opposite direction of a trigger pull.
However, caution does have to be observed when placing/pushing it in a carry position.
That said, there's still nothing covering the trigger with this carry method, so it's much like carrying in the pocket loosely without holster (except with a more consistent positioning). With the P32, I'm okay with it, but I can certainly understand that it may give others pause.
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I have carried one every day for 20 years. Beware that all factory hollow point ammo & any ammo that is shorter oal than standard ball including Buffalo Bore will eventually rim lock & no it's not an old wives tale. Some brands depending on who makes the brass is more prone to rim lock than others. These pistols are a joy to carry & are usually very reliable.
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It has been for around a century.
Rimlock. I first experienced it in my Kel-Tec. I had heard of it but didn't really know what it was. But it was a bit of trouble to clear. So I started reading. I learned the rim was there to head space but not really to extract unless cycling the gun by hand. So I got to thinking. What would happen if I reduced the rim? I mean after all Beretta doesn't even have an extractor on their 32 Tomcat or 25 auto's.
So I chucked a round of 32 auto in my battery drill motor and turned the rim down with a file. Not all the way off but just reduced it. I did a couple of boxes after cycling it through the KT and a Walther PP. It still extracted by hand but there was no way I could make it rim lock. So I test fired most of the modified ammo but still have a little left. I never had a single malfunction or misfire.
Do I expect any of you to do this? Nope. But it can be done and does solve the problem of rimlock. And I really need to get another one of those guns.
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The first 25 rounds of Underwood Defender shot great. I will put about 50 more through the gun before carry. this gun will be used mainly for certain days I dress really light in the Summer. The rest of the days will be the Pico or one of my other pocket guns. I most likely will not shoot this gun very often I shoot the other guns like the Pico which I shoot frequently, that on the first day of shooting I the Kel-tec, I did very well. For training I will stick with the Pico and Kahr and Snubbies.
Underwood 32 changes the dynamics of the 32.cal
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/08/jeremy-s/ammo-review-lehigh-underwood-make-32-acp-great/
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I prefer the term "Dingle Action"."
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Alright, time to spoil the party with some Reel Tawk.
I'm a fan of the .32 ACP in a pistol the size of the P-32/P-3AT/LCP because I do believe it's a soft enough shooter that it can make follow up shots very easy vs .380. .32 ACP is effective enough to justify carrying such a small gun, ammo advances have come recently with all these pure copper, fluted bullets. That said, I think there is a lot of room for improvement in the P-32, be it by Kel Tec or someone else *cough* Ruger *cough*.
The trigger on the P-32 isn't great by any means, it's standard long, heavy late 90s concealed carry think on safety in regards to ND's. Millions of people have carried guns with one in the pipe with no safety other than a trigger dingus for decades and not had an ND. There's nothing that says Kel-Tec can't also make the current P-32, but they should have a model with an improved, LCP II type trigger. Call it the P-32 Pro. Hell, maybe offer a DA/SA too.
The sights could also use some updating. I don't wanna hear about belly gun or point shooter, the .32 is capable of more than that. Something with a taller option that's easier to pick up and a tritium option for low light situations.
That's it, I don't think these guns need much more, just some basic upgrades.
I'm a fan of the .32 ACP in a pistol the size of the P-32/P-3AT/LCP because I do believe it's a soft enough shooter that it can make follow up shots very easy vs .380. .32 ACP is effective enough to justify carrying such a small gun, ammo advances have come recently with all these pure copper, fluted bullets. That said, I think there is a lot of room for improvement in the P-32, be it by Kel Tec or someone else *cough* Ruger *cough*.
The trigger on the P-32 isn't great by any means, it's standard long, heavy late 90s concealed carry think on safety in regards to ND's. Millions of people have carried guns with one in the pipe with no safety other than a trigger dingus for decades and not had an ND. There's nothing that says Kel-Tec can't also make the current P-32, but they should have a model with an improved, LCP II type trigger. Call it the P-32 Pro. Hell, maybe offer a DA/SA too.
The sights could also use some updating. I don't wanna hear about belly gun or point shooter, the .32 is capable of more than that. Something with a taller option that's easier to pick up and a tritium option for low light situations.
That's it, I don't think these guns need much more, just some basic upgrades.
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Sorry to be your spoiler but a few things. You don't want to hear about point shooting? Too bad, because it works, and it works well with a lot of training. I have too much experience with this kind of shooting to go along with your statement. Yes it is capable of going more than belly gun distance and you can do this with point shooting,like I said, i did well on the first day just at 7 yds. Put on a good set of sights and combined with good point shooting skills you can go further distances and do it fast. I have long been a advocate of good sights on a pocket gun like the Beretta Pico and the Kahr.At 7 yds. I am fine with that for the 32.cal. the 380 can do a whole lot better.
Yes, it is a crudely made pocket pistol, and I do not think anyone said any different. The Kel-tec is basically just a LCP in build and quality. I personally would not buy another LCP having owned 4 of them in the past 10 years, but in 32.cal I have no problem.The aluminum chassis is much better suited for the pressures of the 32.cal than 380.
The Trigger on the Kel-tec is not a bad trigger at all. Very much like the Ruger LCP Gen 2. Which IMO was the best trigger made by Ruger. Very smooth and deliberate all the way through, and about 5 1/2 - 6lbs of pull. It could be a little heavier, and would not bother me if it was. The trigger now is al little rough and gritty, but I believe that will work out. In no Way would I have purchased this little Pistol if the trigger was like the LCP ll, I have been against those triggers since they first came out.
No this is not a high Quality Pistol like the Pico, very crude in comparison. But it is a tool and one that so far for me seems to work. The biggest high light is the weight of the gun. At 6.6 oz, and the reliability. Also unlike the LCP, you can change out he grip if one were to break or crack.
There are many articles out about the new Underwood ammo. And many folks that like the 32.cal. Maybe in the near future we will start to see some nice quality guns coming out in that caliber. And it would be great if they could keep the weight down to 6.6 lbs like Kel-tec had done. At this point, I still give Kel-tec a big thumbs up for what they have done so far.
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