Hanzo581
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Quite true but the 9mm caused more death because more were shot with 9mm. You can't deny that it's a very popular caliber.
Guess the point was if it was "effete" they surely wouldn't have died right?
Quite true but the 9mm caused more death because more were shot with 9mm. You can't deny that it's a very popular caliber.
Mauser lover wrote:
To attempt to go back to the op's point, these upstart "wonder nines" perplex me.
Mauser lover wrote:
I figured that "wonder nines" was a term that would adequately fit within the OPs comments about the new (particularly 9mm) pistols.
Correct, he mentioned 9MM and .45 ACP calibers, wondering why one was considered "newer" when both were nearly the same age.The original post made no mention of 9mm pistols.
Mauser lover wrote:
JMB would have had trouble dealing with 1900s plastics!
BUT, fast and light has gotten faster and lighter...Seems the old heavy and slow or fast and light debate is still alive.
Actually, 9mm x 19 was not officially ratified as "NATO Standard" until 1990, when Spain approved the adopted 9mm as Military standard.In 9mm Luger. NATO adopted 9x19 as a standard small arms cartridge in the early 60s I believe.
Bassjam, there really is no polite way to put this, but according to a research done by the IMFDB institute, Dr. Jones had a .455 Webley revolver. By the way, if he was smart enough to use a .45 ACP, those soldiers would have had their heads explode from the pressures generated by the hydrostatic shock. I suppose that the idea of using the pitiful 9mm Luger was tossed by some low-life scum with European ancestry, thus ruining Dr. Jones reputation.
Hope this helps,
M.
I remember reading somewhere that supposedly back in 1906 the German High Command was actually looking for a less than lethal pistol cartridge. The theory behind this was if you wounded an enemy soldier you possibly exposed several of his fellow soldiers being hit as they attempted to try and help him. More enemy casualties meant fewer enemy soldiers to contend with. Also wounded soldiers would require medical attention, thereby tying up more of the enemy's resources.
I don't know how true or historically accurate any of this is but I could see how it might be logical (and advantageous), to the German generals at the time.