notorious
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He deserved the finger.
Academy Sports--I felt like a criminal
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Mohawk
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To empasize your previous post Notorious, I just read in todays paper that a car hiacker was captured because the victim left her cell pone in the SUV and even though it was not on they were able to GPS track the vehicle and catch the perp. The ability to track and monitor all society has gone beyond Orwellian.
My whole point is that every move, every part of the gun transaction in a big box is recorded and archived for legal or LE use and this may have ifluenced the over cautious nature of the sales dept. In private gun shops you will be videoed but the tape is not archived for future use it will be re-recorded over usually.
My whole point is that every move, every part of the gun transaction in a big box is recorded and archived for legal or LE use and this may have ifluenced the over cautious nature of the sales dept. In private gun shops you will be videoed but the tape is not archived for future use it will be re-recorded over usually.
theotherwaldo
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There's an easy cure. Don't buy NEW guns.
I haven't bought a brand new gun since 1975.
Everything's used or milsurp. Bought FTF or from small shops, or even online.
No Academy policy to be followed to the letter.
Nice.
I haven't bought a brand new gun since 1975.
Everything's used or milsurp. Bought FTF or from small shops, or even online.
No Academy policy to be followed to the letter.
Nice.
expvideo
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You're 35. How is it that you remember this?
The gun clerks in that store must be acting like jerks. They deal with so many characters and have to be careful. Sometimes they cross the line. Sorry to hear your experience.
Best is call their general manager and voice out. That should let them know gun owners dont give in to this kind of treatment
Best is call their general manager and voice out. That should let them know gun owners dont give in to this kind of treatment
TxState101
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The best thing to do is not be a jerk and call and attempt to ruin somebody's day when there wasn't any wrongdoing.
Sometimes, when I read THR, I feel that gun owners believe strongly in the 2nd Amendment, but don't believe in anything else, like grammar, or reading comprehension!
Other times, it's just rude comments trying to bring somebody down, much like I'm trying to do now.
Hey-o!
Sometimes, when I read THR, I feel that gun owners believe strongly in the 2nd Amendment, but don't believe in anything else, like grammar, or reading comprehension!
Other times, it's just rude comments trying to bring somebody down, much like I'm trying to do now.
Hey-o!
notorious
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If you think you are being mistreated, voice it to the manager. Maybe he can tell you his side and explain store policy or store experiences which caused the policy. That usually will calm both sides down and nothing further will be made of it.
I know, I deal with dispute resolution every day. Most of the time if both sides get to voice their opinions and understand why each acted the way they did, it works out in the end. I said USUALLY... reasonable people can do it, some people are just beyond help in that regard.
I know, I deal with dispute resolution every day. Most of the time if both sides get to voice their opinions and understand why each acted the way they did, it works out in the end. I said USUALLY... reasonable people can do it, some people are just beyond help in that regard.
My dad worked a hardware store that sold guns and ammunition, and, yes, as a kid, I well remember seeing (and holding) them. It wasn't their main thing I am sure, but I remember shotguns, a few .22s, and some .30/30s.
As stated in a previous post, I remember when you could smoke on domestic flights, at the grocery store and at the hospital.
notorious
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Dude... we used to smoke in the theatre, at work, and it was a given that a man in the infirmary had a right to smoke.
I also miss the days when kids and guns were no big deal because if you did anything remotely wrong, your dad would inflict way more pain on you than any gun could... of course, that wouldn't work nowadays since dads are not as common as they used to be.
I also miss the days when kids and guns were no big deal because if you did anything remotely wrong, your dad would inflict way more pain on you than any gun could... of course, that wouldn't work nowadays since dads are not as common as they used to be.
Guyon
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Way to take the high road and set an example.
notorious
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At least he's honest about it... that's pretty high on the road.
TxState101
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Guyon said:
I've tried.
Really, most of the time I don't even bother responding to some threads just because of what's being said in them.
This one though, it grabbed my attention.
TxState101
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Glad you were able to see it from a different side, John.
Sorry if I came off as an ass.
Sorry if I came off as an ass.
natecade1
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EDIT:
to OP any big department/sporting goods store does the same manager escort type thing.
no big deal to me.
to OP any big department/sporting goods store does the same manager escort type thing.
no big deal to me.
Guyon
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I have better luck at Academy than any other chain. When they first opened in these parts, they would run 15% off firearms sales from time to time, and they would even take the percentage off a sale price.
As far as other chains go, I've bought one gun from Bass Pro and one gun from Wal-Mart.
The Bass Pro check took a couple of hours, in which time I had to wander around the store/mall aimlessly until they called me.
The Wal-Mart check took a day. I'm not even sure about the reasons the background check took so long, but I had to come back the next day to pick up the shotgun. Had it not been on clearance, I wouldn't have fooled with it.
As far as other chains go, I've bought one gun from Bass Pro and one gun from Wal-Mart.
The Bass Pro check took a couple of hours, in which time I had to wander around the store/mall aimlessly until they called me.
The Wal-Mart check took a day. I'm not even sure about the reasons the background check took so long, but I had to come back the next day to pick up the shotgun. Had it not been on clearance, I wouldn't have fooled with it.
notorious
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IBTL!
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Wait, so cell phones can now receive GPS signals and transmit their location when turned off? I would love to see the article where they claim this.
Also, let us know how the buffet is at the Reynold Wrap Customer Appreciation dinner.
Edited to add: I just called up my satellite imaging of Mohawk's house and zoomed in on the newspaper. This appears to be the article. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2008/12/28/20081228wvcarjack1228.html However, it doesn't mention anything about the cell phone not being on.
HadEmAll
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I think you're overreacting.
notorious
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Cell phones, even when turned off, can be tracked by the signal it's giving off to the cell sites. The only way to get it off the grid is to take out the battery.
While it's not exactly GPS, it can be triangulated fairly easily if the cell service provider assists.
They have a way to get the signal... I won't say too much more about how they do it as they are very hesitant to acknowledge it but it is something that we've done or attempted to do a few times when it has helped in tracking down criminals... especially in a carjacking or robbery where the cell phone was taken.
While it's not exactly GPS, it can be triangulated fairly easily if the cell service provider assists.
They have a way to get the signal... I won't say too much more about how they do it as they are very hesitant to acknowledge it but it is something that we've done or attempted to do a few times when it has helped in tracking down criminals... especially in a carjacking or robbery where the cell phone was taken.
Kind of Blued
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I feel like a criminal filling out a 4473 even when it goes swimmingly. 
toivo
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Agreed. In New York State we put up with a lot of crap regarding firearms, but at least we don't have to deal with waiting periods.
My biggest gripe with my big box purchasing experience was the fact that they (Wal-Mart) had two clowns playing tug-of-war with my new rifle (CZ 452) while trying to get the mandatory POS trigger lock on it. I offered to do it for them, but they said I was not allowed to touch the rifle. I don't know what they were so worried about: The bolt wasn't in it.
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notorious
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I don't know if I would trade one type of tyranny for another... at least our long arms are not registered... yet.
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