Admirering a fine pair of .36's!

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ZVP

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Sipping my morning Cofee , I can't take my eyes off the two here on the Kitchen Table, both well made examples of the basic '51 and a Factory customised '62 made to resemble Colt's origonal Police Model.
In my opnion, Piettia did it better by using a shortened barrelof 5 1/2" and a full sized 6 shot cylinder capable of full power loads, Not much was lost in using the '62 as a platform. Yes there is more weight to the '62 but the increase in potential power is well worth a few ounces!
I have shot the Piettia Police quite a bit and it's near as perfect as you can get a Navy model!
I'd like to see a ''51 cut down the sme. Id wager it handles even BETTER than the '62 does! The lighter Octagonal barrel and loading mechanism would just add to good handling qualitys.
I wonder if Piettia has plans to offer a civillian Pocket model '51? Now that would be an instant hit! I'm pretty sure Colt chose the '51 platform for their Civillian Pocket model for just that reason. When I shoot the Police model, I use my "standard" 22 gr Pyrodex charge that I shoot in all my '36's. It offers a balance of power and accuracy with the 7 1/2" barrels and aparentlly loosing that 2" of barrel on the Police model, it dosen't loose a thing!
I'd lie to chronograph the two to see actual velocitys.
I can't help but be fascinated with the Navy model and it's variations because it's such a nice shooting piece!
Recoil is near non exhistant and shot to shot recoil recovery takes no intentional movement of the hand as the revolver just falls back into battery by itself! A trait that endeared the Navy model to Mr Hickok in his bloody encounters.From what I've read, the Navy model played the major role in his gunfights though he is known to shoot the big .44 ocasionally.
I have no desire to ever use either caliber for cardinal purposes so the Navy serves me well for an all around trail gun.
Now if we could ever properly address a solution to keep Caps in their place! There's nothing more disheartning than the dull click of an uncapped nipple as a rattler prepares to sink his fangs in ya!
Do many of you have similar hang-ups on the Navy Model?
For what reasons?
Which manufacturers revolvers do you shoot? What variants?
Thanks for letting me ramble on about the Navy's, it's an obsession!
ZVP
 
My next cap and ball is going to be one of those lovely little Pietta Police '62s. I know they aren't historically accurate, but they just look so dang lovely and handy.

I see Cabela's has them on sale. I was so excited about that as I am going to be visiting near one of their stores so I could handle one....then our Microwave went out last night:fire::fire:

Soooo goodbye sweet little $200 shooter, hello $350 appliance:(
 
Which manufacturers revolvers do you shoot? What variants?

I'll have to disagree there, that little 'baby' framed '62 police by Uberti is a thing to behold.

What I'm really looking for is a 3rd Generation (Signature Series) Colt 62 Police with a 6 1/2" barrel. I have one with the 5 1/2" barrel but I can't find one anywhere with a 6 1/2" barrel that I can afford.
 
I don't know where to begin.

1. The Pietta '62 is nothing more than an 1861 Navy with a shortened barrel.

2. The five Colt open top frame sizes are Paterson (.36); Walker (.44) , Pocket Model (.31 and .36) Dragoon (.44), and Navy/Army (.36 and .44).

3. The Paterson and Pocket model frames are 5 shot revolvers (although the .31 cal. pocket model came with 6 shot cylinders too)

4. The Colt style .36 cal. Pocket Models (Police and Navy) used the same frame as the .31s; but they had a cut down water table to accommodate the rebated .36 cylinders.

5. The Pocket Police and Pocket Navies came with 4.5, 5.5, 6.5 inch barrels (as do the replicas)

6. Pietta never made a revolver based on the smaller .31/.36 cal. frame. Nor did they ever make a large frame .44. They only made/make revolvers based in the 1851 .36/1860 .44 cal. frame.
 
Fingers, thanks for sharing your vast knowlege of Colt revolvers! Man you really know them!
So, then the Piettia 36's are made on the larger .44 frame? My .36 cal Piettas seem to be the same size as my Uberti London model.
I always noticed that there is a step on the watertable on the .31 caliber frames to accomidate the larger .36 caliber chambers. Even my "Junker" CVA Police has the step on the watertable.
Well nevertheless, the Pettias are really neat revolvers! With the exception of the famous "Pointy Backstrap" on Piettas that always needs reshapeing, they have improved their Q/C and function right out of the box!
I have one of the Piettia .44 Navy Brassers that has a "step" built on the watertable to acommodate the .44 chambers. It's a very nice shooter! The Brass seems to act like an additional bearing surface making the big .44 Navy a very smooth operating gun! Naturally, I light load the piece to protect it as much as possible. I hope it lasts a long time because it's very accurate.
Yes the Uberti's follow the origonal Colt dimensions, like barrel lengths religously. They ARE the most historically correct!
BTW, MyPiettia Police has a slightly oversized
( wide) Wood grip that overpowers the pointy heel and I didn't need to round that gripframe off like my others.
Learning all this is really intresting!
ZVP
 
...So, then the Piettia 36's are made on the larger .44 frame? ... ZVP...
Actually, it is the 44 that is built on the 36 frame. When Colt's brought out the 1860, they did so by machining the 1851 frame to accept the larger portion of the 44 caliber cylinder.
 
I'm generally a big fan of Pietta but I went Uberti for the Pocket Police and some of the other pocket models (1849 "Wells Fargo"). Pietta does make a nice pocket Remington in .31 but they definitely seem to be keeping their Colt frame sizes to a minimum.
 
So, then the Piettia 36's are made on the larger .44 frame? My .36 cal Piettas seem to be the same size as my Uberti London model

The Piettas are all made on the Navy/Army frame. I guess that should have been 7. The 1851 Navy, 1861 Navy and 1860 Army all use the same frame with the 1860 frame having a cut down water table to accommodate the 1860s rebated cylinder.
 
Likely a available parts bin decision.
They have the option of building many revolvers all based on the Navy platform. They look close enough, shoot really well and sell like hotcakes! Piettia marketing is no fools, they are in it for the bottom line while keeping us BP nuts happy!
Even with the obvious errors in being historically correct, I will remain a fan of the company because they sell some really fun revolvers to shoot. I REALLY love the historical accuracy of the Ubertis though. Love my Uberti '51 London!
I suppose we can overlook some minor discrepencys in design to have these fun guns to shoot?
Thanks for the replys guys!
ZVP
 
''1. The Pietta '62 is nothing more than an 1861 Navy with a shortened barrel...''
and a half fluted cylinder. which is not a bad thing. That is my all time favorite Pietta ''Colt''.
 
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