Alabama Hunter Kills 8 Pt. That dresses 88 lbs.

[Patocazador]

Alabama Hunter Bags Extremely Rare Dwarf Piebald Buck

Josh Crocker hunted the tiny buck on highly-pressured public land for three seasons before notching his tag in November. He's getting a full-body mount, obviously

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An Alabama hunter has killed a dwarf piebald deer that weighed 88 lbs. after gutting.



When I hunted in Alabama, our club had a rule that bucks had to score 115 B&C to avoid a $250 fine. I killed a sure "scorer", I thought, but the 8 point turned out to be a dwarf buck also and cost me $$$. It was not a piebald.

 

[hooisershooter]

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

 

[redneck2]

When I worked at the LGS we would weigh in deer. At that time every deer had to be checked in at an official check station.

So, we have this “Mighty Mouth” city boy come in after shooting his first deer. He was running his mouth about this big deer he shot, so one of the guys went down to check and tag it (we were on the 2nd floor). Our guy beats him back up and is laughing, saying the deer is a fawn that still has spots.

Mr. Mouth demands that we weigh the deer. IIRC it was 47 pounds. When we took it off the scale, I asked him if he wanted it back in the trunk of his car, or should I just put it in the glove box. He was not amused

 

[buck460XVR]

Out of the 6 million deer killed annually in the U.S., there are going to be a few strange ones.

 

[entropy]

Must have wandered east from Texas......

 

[jmorris]

Yeah, whoever came up with "everything is bigger in Texas", wasn't a deer hunter...

That said, I think one would need a foot on the scale to get the one in the OP up to 88lbs gutted.

 

[red rick]

I don’t fault him for shooting it . I wouldn’t want it breeding . I did have a chance to shoot a solid white doe once , but I passed . I probably should have taken it out of the breeding pool .

 

[earlthegoat2]

See what kind of genetics QDM is getting us.

 

[jmr40]

That's not unusual in the south, the only thing odd about that deer is that it is a piebald. That is a pretty typical deer where I hunt. My largest was 130 lbs field dressed. I don't always weigh them, but I shot one doe that I was able to pick up and load in the truck with one hand. Probably 35-40 lbs.

There are 3 distinct regions in GA. The mountain deer in the north tend to have smallish bodies and weigh 100-140 lbs on the hoof. Many have decent racks however. In the middle 1/3 of the state where agriculture is king they get fed better and tend to produce larger bodies. Some of the ones in extreme south GA and along the coast are tiny.

In some places in Florida a 75 lb (live weight) deer is a big one.

The Talladega NF where this was killed in Alabama is pretty much like north Ga geographically.

 

[Patocazador]

In some places in Florida a 75 lb (live weight) deer is a big one.

Back in the '70s they had a hotly contested deer hunt in the Everglades in the summer. I went with a friend who drew a permit. We killed 2 deer. His was a 4 pt. that had a live weight of 71 lbs. I killed a doe with a live weight of 56 lbs. We were both interviewed by John Quinones on ABC national news. Several friends called from other states and asked why I was killing "baby deer." Both deer were aged as 2 year olds.

The biologists wanted non-mature deer killed so mature deer could repopulate the area after the flood waters receded. It was a good plan but, as usual, the antis got a federal judge to stop the hunt north of Alligator Alley. All of the deer (21?) captured by the do-gooders were relocated 100 miles north of their home habitat and were dead within a year.

 

[FL-NC]

No one travels down here to hunt deer. Fl residents just hunt the ones we are stuck with.

 

[1KPerDay]

Nice doggie

 

[crstrode]

Shooting a little deer like that should be grounds for immediate revocation of one's man-card . . . if he ever had one.

 

[GooseGestapo]

Shooting a little deer like that should be grounds for immediate revocation of one's man-card . . . if he ever had one.

I resemble that remark. ….!

I grew up hunting in that area… lived in Anniston.
Alabama , instead of stocking northern deer like Georgia and other states chose to capture deer in state to stock under the presumption they would b3 better adapted to the geographic environment. Most came from the Stimpson Wildlife Management Area in S. Alabama.

In 2003, I was working in E. Georgia, near Augusta. I went hunting on the Corp. Of Engineers Prop North of Lincolnton. It was a frosty morning on Saturday after Thanksgiving. I was slow walking up dry lake bed along Lloyd Crk with my .35Rem Marlin. I spotted movement ahead about 80yds distant and raised my scope. A nice (I thought) 8pt buck stepped into my field of view. Spread was wider than his hips and symmetrical. I put the crosshairs on his shoulder and pressed the trigger. He did a back roll flip away at the impact of the 200gr Corlokt loaded to 2,300fps and disappeared. A fog ball hung in the air as hot blood mist formed a vapor cloud.
I was elated till I walked up on it and saw that it looked just like the photo except it wasn’t piebald. Slightly bigger 8pt rack too. I walked back to my Jeep Cherokee to get a drag rope and left my rifle. I returned, field dressed it and started back to the jeep.
As I approached my jeep, I was met by a man and his wife who appeared astonished by the deer. His wife kept looking at my 4” Ruger Security-6 I had on my belt in a SafariLand thumb-break holster.
She commented to her husband after I drug past them and nodded. As I passed, I heard her say “wow! He shot that big deer with a pistol !
I couldn’t help but laugh!!
I didn’t correct her…..
I think it dressed about 80lbs…..

It was Carma pay back for teasing a hunter in Lincoln Co. the previous season as I picked up his 8pt buck by all four feet out of his Jeep as I was confiscating it, for not blaming him for not tagging the deer as it wasn’t a “real deer”, but a miniature “Carolina” deer, as we called them…
But there sure are a LOT of them, over there…
The next season I got three does on opening day with a .223… (I’d retired, and was first opening day I’d hunted in 25years…

 

[jmr40]

instead of stocking northern deer like Georgia and other states

When I was growing up in GA just seeing a deer track was a big deal. Very few here in the 60's and early 70's. Quail and rabbit were king. There was no big game hunting tradition here until the mid-to late 1970s. The few big game hunters traveled out of state to hunt.

They stocked the mountains with Texas deer. The ones in south GA came from Wisconsin. Of course that was 50-60 years ago but still today you see more smaller bodied deer with decent racks in the mountains. You're more likely to see bigger bodies in the middle of the state. Most of the farming is in middle to south GA and the deer are fed better there than their mountain cousins too.

shooting a little deer like that should be grounds for immediate revocation of one's man-card . . . if he ever had one.

When that is the typical size deer where you live you don't have much choice.

 

[JDeere]

Shooting a little deer like that should be grounds for immediate revocation of one's man-card . . . if he ever had one.

There are places in this Country where deer don't get much bigger than that. Not everyone can hunt where there are donkeys to take...

 

[Random 8]

I had a post on this topic a few years ago, the varying morphology of the whitetail deer across our country. Up here near the Northern edge of viable deer habitat, I've literally shot larger fawns. The average adult doe will dress significantly heavier. Theres a reason we still cling to our. 30 calibers up here.. Crazy to see the difference and hear the stories.

 

[Mercy Me]

Congratulations!!!

 

[wild willy]

There would be a lot of disappointed/enlightened hunters if they weighted every deer they got. There are hunters who have never weighed a deer and have no idea.

 

[buck460XVR]

That's not unusual in the south, the only thing odd about that deer is that it is a piebald.

See what kind of genetics QDM is getting us.

....Piebald is not a product of inbreeding as some believe, but is caused by genetics. In the wild a Piebald deer has a lower chance of survival, not only because of the coloration, but because most Piebald deer have other genetic issues like poor hearing, spine deformities and yep.....shorter legs. All of which, would make them easier prey. So, in a real world for whitetail deer, deer carrying the genetic for Piebald, succumb first according to Darwin, and thus keep that deformity low. But in a world without large predators other than those that are more concerned with killing the largest deer with the largest horn, those genetics get passed on more and more. Piebald deer are actually bred by deer farms because Piebald fawns bring more monies. At a nearby Military installation, Piebalds are very common around the barracks and buildings where hunting is not allowed. Most are smaller in size and have short noses and small jaws. May also have arched spines which makes them walk funny. Before security got so tight around the base, they used to be a kind of local tourist attraction.