Alliant powders are coming back... they're DOUBLE the price

Dang Midway! Those prices way up there! Makes me feel pretty good about the 8lb jug of AR Comp I paid $340 delivered for....:eek:
 
As has been noted before, if Alliant has made a powder drop, check your normal local outlets to see if they got some too. I first noticed this a couple years ago when I was looking for powders. When one got it, many of the others did too.
 
I was getting a little nervous about being low on Reloader 17 but two weeks ago I found 5 pounds and averaged $55 a pound which included hazmat and shipping. It was out of stock the next time I looked. Under the circumstances I considered it a good buy. I just kept looking until I found what I wanted and a price that was reasonable.
 
Expensive, sure but only +50% by my calculation.

In the industry I'm in (swimming pools and spas) everything has gone up a blanket 40%'ish, and some things, like heaters, have gone up nearly 100% (heaters have a solid copper heat exchanger in them.) Everything costs more, everywhere, including smokeless powder. Is it corporate greed? That's so cliche' I won't even bother defending it, but corporations have to anticipate a number of factors when they price their products at a wholesale level, and, again, when a distributor or retailer receives the product and puts it on the shelf... it's just that simple. I do the very same thing.

Everyone knows Midway is not the cheapest place to buy stuff... duh. But they have most everything, and it's an easy place to find it. This is America... if you don't like the price someone is asking for something, find somewhere else to shop, find something else to buy, or go without.
 
Thanks for the heads up. I have been wanting to try some BE-86, but $48 for a pound plus shipping plus hazmat plus Washington state sales tax theft of 8.7% seemed a little rich even for the “new, better measuring cleaner Unique replacement”. So, I swallowed hard and grabbed an 8 pounder from MidSouth for $231.95, figuring it will last long enough to amortize the $293 delivered price (about $37 per pound including legitimate shipping hazmat and King Jay tribute).
 
In the industry I'm in (swimming pools and spas) everything has gone up a blanket 40%'ish, and some things, like heaters, have gone up nearly 100% (heaters have a solid copper heat exchanger in them.) Everything costs more, everywhere, including smokeless powder. Is it corporate greed? That's so cliche' I won't even bother defending it, but corporations have to anticipate a number of factors when they price their products at a wholesale level, and, again, when a distributor or retailer receives the product and puts it on the shelf... it's just that simple. I do the very same thing.

Everyone knows Midway is not the cheapest place to buy stuff... duh. But they have most everything, and it's an easy place to find it. This is America... if you don't like the price someone is asking for something, find somewhere else to shop, find something else to buy, or go without.
Agree!!
 
I'm part of the party that says if you NEED it, and it's available, buy it. The price might be hard to swallow, but if it's that dire of a need, you can either suck it up or go without. In my case, I've found alternates and pretty much switched to those. Partly based mostly on availability, but partly also based on the fact I can walk into Bruno's and get Vihta Vuori and walk out with it for less than I can order anything else from just about anywhere online. Not to mention even Titegroup was around $10 more at Sportsman's Warehouse than at Bruno's.
 
"Corporate greed" is the battle cry of the proletariat. :cuss:

I've learned from past experience: Anything too expensive to buy today will be unavailable tomorrow at any price. By the time I "need" it, it will be more expensive and harder to find. Until I pay up - then prices will plummet and inventory will be everywhere. My solution has been to never let myself get in the position of needing anything related to a hobby.
 
Wow. Unique. Out of stock even at that price.

I used to reload Unique mainly because it was one of the cheaper alternative. This was way, way, way back before it was one of the dirtiest powder. They then changed the formula to make it less dirty while maintaining the price. I stayed with it but it’s time to move on to a different powder.
 
"Corporate greed" is the battle cry of the proletariat. :cuss:

I've learned from past experience: Anything too expensive to buy today will be unavailable tomorrow at any price. By the time I "need" it, it will be more expensive and harder to find. Until I pay up - then prices will plummet and inventory will be everywhere. My solution has been to never let myself get in the position of needing anything related to a hobby.

Sometimes free hazmat isn't free !. Alliant check components post :)
 
W244 is the new Unique

Ohhhh.... I don't know about that. W244 may be the new W231, but it certainly is not Unique. For that matter, neither is BE-86...


Man, this hobby is getting as expensive as skiing.

Yes, but the medical bills are cheaper, and you can still handload with a leg cast... ;)
 
I looked at my 2400 bottles. Price on one before the plandemic. 20.00. One i got during 25.00. My last one i bought this year 35.00


Yup. My bottles of Unique and Bullseye that were bought just a few years back from Sportsmans Warehouse were about 20-22 bucks a lb. A buddy would travel to KY to visit family and would stop in and text me requests of anything I may need. I would always have him grab me a couple few lbs of powder.
 
I been enjoying Ramshot TAC in 223. Last 8lb one. I got from Graf and sons. I have a free shipping code. The powder was 227 plus hazmat. I think theirs is 19 and change.
 
I'm part of the party that says if you NEED it, and it's available, buy it. The price might be hard to swallow, but if it's that dire of a need, you can either suck it up or go without. In my case, I've found alternates and pretty much switched to those. Partly based mostly on availability, but partly also based on the fact I can walk into Bruno's and get Vihta Vuori and walk out with it for less than I can order anything else from just about anywhere online. Not to mention even Titegroup was around $10 more at Sportsman's Warehouse than at Bruno's.
Interestingly, Vihtavuori hasn't gone up on prices like other companies. Used to be the most expensive powder, now it is reasonable, by comparison.
 
Interestingly, Vihtavuori hasn't gone up on prices like other companies. Used to be the most expensive powder, now it is reasonable, by comparison.
I think 1lb bottles are running about $42 at Bruno's. Kinda hard to say that's too much when Sportsman's is selling one of the other powders I've worked up a load with at $47. And the prices on Varget are ridiculous just about everywhere, but a bottle of N140 is still that same $42. With Bruno's being local, I also get away from hazmat and shipping.
 
Varget is good powder but most people won't be able to tell the difference between it and another quality extruded powder, especially in a factory built gun or out of an AR-15.

For an interesting light on that subject- Go to Nosler's website and look at the reloading data for 308 Winchester. Click on the tabs for any of the bullet weights and notice the powder they highlight as the most accurate powder for that combination.
 
$50 for a lb after tax on some powders...ouch. It doesn't seem that long ago I wouldn't pay above $20 a pound for any of it.
 
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