almost 3k on a rifle setup am I crazy?
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Ks5shooter
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GO FOR IT
Some people would spend $3000 on a doll or a set of wheels (not a car... just the wheels). I never question what other people spend their money on... that is an activity for liberals. I ride bicycles, and the EXACT same question comes up with respect to bicycles (am I crazy for buying this $3000 bicycle?). My philosophy is: if this is not a fad, if you are in it for a long time because you love it, get what you want and enjoy it. If you are going to spend 10s/100s/1000s of hours with a piece of equipment, you might as well do it with a piece of equipment you love.
As for me, I have yet to spend over $750 on a firearm, and my average gun cost sits at $270. I also reload all centerfire calibers. I am into this activity about as cheaply as one can be and still have some nice firearms.
Then again, I buy used cars and drive them for 250k miles/12 years. Its a matter of priorities and interest.
As for me, I have yet to spend over $750 on a firearm, and my average gun cost sits at $270. I also reload all centerfire calibers. I am into this activity about as cheaply as one can be and still have some nice firearms.
Then again, I buy used cars and drive them for 250k miles/12 years. Its a matter of priorities and interest.
I can't believe it took 11 posts for some cheapskate to show up with "Just buy a Savage".
Show me a Savage that had to shoot a 5-shot sub-MOA group just to get out the factory door.
OP, that's a fine set up you're considering. As someone that just got a Blaser rifle, I say go for it.
Show me a Savage that had to shoot a 5-shot sub-MOA group just to get out the factory door.
OP, that's a fine set up you're considering. As someone that just got a Blaser rifle, I say go for it.
I have 12 Sako rifles, 3 that are Grey wolf's, one is a 300win. mag.! The Optilock ring and base system is rock solid and you are wise to use it. All my Sako's are sub moa shooters with premium ammo. My 300 wears a Nightforce NXS 5.5-22X56 and I shoot it suppressed which makes it a pleasure to shoot and hunt with. You have chosen wisely, enjoy it. Savage, I don't think so!
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leadcounsel said:
Why does a rifle and scope need to be an investment? Many of us buy firearms to use and keep with no intention of selling. That said, I've sold a number of firearms at a considerable profit. There aren't many things these days that twenty years from now will function and perform as they did on day one, but firearms are in that group.
Great comments
I guess I am just hesitant to spend that much. But it is what I have wanted for many years.
Additionally the Leupold V-6 scope is a 30mm tube which if you have not physically looked through one its amazing. I already own a leupold V-3 and there is no comparision.
Hunting is my hobby its what I have done for twenty years. I have just retired and will have many opportunities to hunt all over the US than I ever did. Also at this point in my life I have the money set aside to buy it and enjoy a few hunts.
I guess I am just hesitant to spend that much. But it is what I have wanted for many years.
Additionally the Leupold V-6 scope is a 30mm tube which if you have not physically looked through one its amazing. I already own a leupold V-3 and there is no comparision.
Hunting is my hobby its what I have done for twenty years. I have just retired and will have many opportunities to hunt all over the US than I ever did. Also at this point in my life I have the money set aside to buy it and enjoy a few hunts.
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I'm not too far off on my dreamguns. Yes, plural. Full auto thompson far exceeds your budget, Whitworth cannon exceeds your budget (plus gotta build it's own shed), but for your purposes my closest dreamgun is a Romanian psl. Last I looked the Romanian is about 2800 plus shipping, century clone is about 1700.
Panzerschwein
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If you've the funds, I'd say go for it IF it REALLY is your dream rifle.
You only live once, might as well enjoy it!
You only live once, might as well enjoy it!
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I'd say if you have the money and really want it, then get it. However, as someone who buys and sells vintage quality deer rifles, I can tell you that buying a new gun in current production is not a good financial "investment", if you plan on shooting it. What leadcounsel said below is correct...
"A $3000 rifle and glass is a poor "investment." The resale value on it will be 1/2 what he has into it. At that price (5 times the price of an equally functional rifle), it's a high end luxury item, nothing more. Are there worse things to spend money on? Of course."
"A $3000 rifle and glass is a poor "investment." The resale value on it will be 1/2 what he has into it. At that price (5 times the price of an equally functional rifle), it's a high end luxury item, nothing more. Are there worse things to spend money on? Of course."
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Definitely buy it. If you don't you will regret it. It is the nicest or one of the best production rifle you can buy. Nothing will replace that feeling you will have owning it. It is like having a Mercedes. It is not often that you can buy happiness.
a-sheepdog
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If that is your dream rifle, by all means purchase it and set it up accordingly. Life is too short to be unhappy when the goal is attainable. Buy it, shoot it and enjoy.
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Buy it!
CoalTrain49
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Watcha going to do with it? That dictates the expense for me. I've spent that much on a gun. If you use it for it's intended purpose then I say it's money well spent. If it ends up in the safe like mine did then it's not a smart move.
Hey I have spent as much as $3500 in one year just on rimfire ammo. The cost of any firearm is in the ammo. The price of the gun itself is all about how much you can collect to spend at one time. I've got more money than that tied up in several hobbies. I had $10,000 worth of ATV's at one time and most of the time I was the only one riding them. Once in a while my kids would take my second machine and go with me. That doesn't include the trailer, the truck I bought basically just to pull it (good trucks get broken into at the trail head so I bought a junker to pull my trailer there - I didn't lock the doors because there wasn't anything worth stealing but some idiot took the back door hinge off one day trying to get in) and all the gas and upkeep and the snow plow and the winch etc. etc..
If you have the money it's a no brainer. I've even thought of selling all my guns to buy a Sako and a nice scope. But I like having a bunch of different things I guess. Some of them are worth more than others but I haven't put that much in a rifle "yet". I have about half that much in one and it's a dandy. But I'd still like to have a Sako. They are special.
If you have the money it's a no brainer. I've even thought of selling all my guns to buy a Sako and a nice scope. But I like having a bunch of different things I guess. Some of them are worth more than others but I haven't put that much in a rifle "yet". I have about half that much in one and it's a dandy. But I'd still like to have a Sako. They are special.
sage5907
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If you're just going to sit and hold the rifle and say "That's my favorite rifle" it may be worth the money. On the other hand, you can't predict if it will be your favorite rifle when you start using it. In my experience money spend is not a predictor as to which rifle will be your favorite. I'm on my 3rd "favorite rifle" right now. It just happens to be the rifle that hits everything I shoot at.
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If you can afford it & it makes you happy, go for it.folsoh said:
I learned a long time ago that the only person I had to really make happy, is myself, and if a 3K rifle fits the bill, then that's it. I never worry about what resale value is because the intent is to keep it. I look for value and check around for the best deal, but when it comes down to getting an outstanding product that you enjoy owning there is only one path. I don't care if a friend accomplished the same thing for less money, that's their bag not mine.
enjoy your purchase and shoot a lot and safely
enjoy your purchase and shoot a lot and safely
Well I have pretty much decided to buy it
I have decided to buy it.
The only question is 300 WSM or 300 Win Mag. Every person has there preference and I still am like 75% WSM and this little voice 25% that says don't buy a fad buy the 300 Win Mag its tried and true.
I will be using the rifle to hunt elk, antelope, white tail deer and mule deer and anything else I can draw a tag for at ranges up to 500 yards.
Ballistic ally they both seem to be about the same. Both boxes of high end ammo run about the same in price. Seems like 300 Win Mag can be bought anywhere now a days. The only difference I see with the WSM is the short cartridge cycling through rifle faster.
I have decided to buy it.
The only question is 300 WSM or 300 Win Mag. Every person has there preference and I still am like 75% WSM and this little voice 25% that says don't buy a fad buy the 300 Win Mag its tried and true.
I will be using the rifle to hunt elk, antelope, white tail deer and mule deer and anything else I can draw a tag for at ranges up to 500 yards.
Ballistic ally they both seem to be about the same. Both boxes of high end ammo run about the same in price. Seems like 300 Win Mag can be bought anywhere now a days. The only difference I see with the WSM is the short cartridge cycling through rifle faster.
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I have pretty much the same rig and don't regret buying it. Just be aware that the VX-6 might cause you ejection problems because of the size of the turrets with certain rings. If you can move the scope fore or aft it may solve the problem but may not be ideal for eye relief.
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Good for you!! I hope you go with the .300WM and not the short one. If there ever is a need for resale, I think that would help you out. However, there are people today who are glad that 50 years ago they bought that Winchester 88 or Savage 99 in the fadish .284 or .358 versions.
Reloadron
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Almost 3k on a rifle setup am I crazy?
No, I don't see it as crazy or for that matter foolish. I also see you have decided to buy the rifle so good for you. As long as spending 3 grand on a rifle setup you want will not result in you sitting in the dark and cold or urinating in gutters, treat yourself to the rifle.
Ron
No, I don't see it as crazy or for that matter foolish. I also see you have decided to buy the rifle so good for you. As long as spending 3 grand on a rifle setup you want will not result in you sitting in the dark and cold or urinating in gutters, treat yourself to the rifle.
Ron
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First of all the name calling is not very High Road.
Secondly, I'm quite familiar with Sako and Tika, along with lowly competitors that do literally the same thing.
Third, let's assume you're correct and a Sako will shoot under 1 MOA. So does a Savage, and according to Savage their rifles shoot MOA before they are sold. So, let's give a 1/2 inch MOA edge to a Sako for the sake of argument. Yep, Sako may be more refined, hand fitted, etc. But on a 1,000 yard shot at most that's at most a 5 inch difference. On any game, that will make no real world difference. And how often are hunters really taking such long shots? I'd venture not often, unless on a unique valley, firing across a ravine or something. Probably quite a rare situation... and not one IMO worth of spending 5-fold for the setup. And that's assuming Sako can outperform Savage, which I'm not inclined to believe it can to any real-world degree where it matters. I've read plenty of .5 MOA Savage reports to support this belief. And my Savages perform at the sub MOA range.
Forth, functional guns are and some guns are not investments. I'd venture a high-end hunting rifle is not going to be an good financial "investment" given the niche market and people with that kind of money want a new one, not a used one, if they're paying near retail value. Take that rifle in the field on a few hunting trips, knock it around a bit, and watch the value get cut in half.
I used to think that guns were good investments and have a lot of money tied up in guns. Some of them have appreciated (mostly due to politics, and C&R stuff), but modern current manufacture off-the-shelf stuff does not appreciate or hold value well. While I believe they are generally good things to own, they generally seem to be pretty poor investments. You can buy off the shelf new guns for less today than a decade or two ago, not including the random spikes in prices. Handguns, ARs, AKs, hunting rifles, you name it. Unless it's particularly coveted and unique and kept in excellent condition, it's going to lose value.
You buy a Sako because you want a certain thing - and the more power to you. I would never try to dictate what people can spend money on... But the OP asked opinions, and this is mine. Just recognize that it's not a rational or smart financial decision because MUCH less expensive rifles will do effectively the same thing. The same comparison can be made for many other things in life, like the difference between high end watches versus off-the-shelf watches, etc.
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