Ammo shortage easing or not?

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Right after Newtown, I wandered over to the ammo counter in WM and they had no .22, no .223, but a few boxes of everything else. I picked up a bulk pack of the Federal 9mm for $22. Each trip since then, the shelves have been barren aside from shotgun shells and hunting calibers.

After the 2008 elections, I made it a habit to pick up some ammo at WM every major shopping trip we took and ended up with a nice stock by this January, especially since I haven't been able to go shoot any of it in months.

I am kind of kicking myself for not picking up the CCI .22lr bulk packs in ammo boxes that they were selling in November!
 
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From what I have seen, the prices seem to be slightly falling. I think we will start to see the panic buying recede in the next few months but prices will remain high for a while.
 
After the 2008 elections, I made it a habit to pick up some ammo at WM every major shopping trip we took and ended up with a nice stock by this January, especially since I haven't been able to go shoot any of it in months.

I wish I would've taken this attitude, but I am making it a habbit now. There are still some ok deals to be found, it just takes some looking around. My goal now is to by 500 .22 each month and 40 .308 rounds (those aren't the only calibers I have, but the main ones that I will be sticking to). I only get out to shoot for fun maybe once every other month, so that amount of ammo should suit me just fine. Oh, and .40/.45 luckily isn't an issue for me to get. :cool:
 
From what I have seen, the prices seem to be slightly falling. I think we will start to see the panic buying recede in the next few months but prices will remain high for a while.
I haven't seen any evidence of that, I just watched two auctions on gunbroker end, both offering 1000 rounds of 9mm ammo, all Winchester ranger, one thousand of which was FMJ. The winning bids were $750.00 & $630.00(FMJ)respectively.
 
Were any of you around in 2008-09-10?
Ever hear about those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it??

Sure doesn't look that way.
 
I just spent a full hour searching the internet for both 9x18mm cartridges and/or bullets (FMJ and cast) to reload. I admit that I am by no means a wizard at the Google, but I was surprised to find nothing available in stock anywhere tonight.

For the last year or so I would run by the ammo department and buy any brick of .22LR I saw at a sale price when we were out doing our general shopping, and now all of a sudden my wife does not think I am such a 'goofball idiot' after all.
 
I just spent a full hour searching the internet for both 9x18mm cartridges and/or bullets (FMJ and cast) to reload. I admit that I am by no means a wizard at the Google, but I was surprised to find nothing available in stock anywhere tonight.

This is my issue. Some things I can't even find anywhere other than Gunbroker which is absurd. I live 30 miles from town so driving in every day to check everywhere is a PITA. I have been fortunate to find all of my pistol ammo that I was a bit short on and I have plenty of 9mm to last me a year of normal practice but I would like some additional .22 plinking ammo and maybe some .223. Can't find either one locally though.
 
Things are much,much worse than in 2009-10.
True,most reloading supplies were pretty much non existent and .380 was very hard to find except from the scalpers on GunBroker in 09-10.
This very morning I looked at three different online sites and there was zero 9mm,32 ACP,and 22 of any kind.
Luckily I am well supplied but I do know others that are looking.
Friday around lunch I headed over to the local Academy Sports.
They have moved the most sought out ammo from the ammo area to the customer service area and limit it to one box per customer.
They had at least 20 boxes of 5.56 and I bought one for a friend.
I also bought a 100 round value pack of Winchester in .40 for another friend.
It was gone by Friday night according to another friend.
It's much worse this time around and I cant see any hope for improvement until probably late summer or even beyond.
 
Its going to get more expensive very quickly, thats because spring is coming up in just a few weeks, I expect 9mm to reach towards the $1.00 per round range for FMJ....$1.000.00 per thousand is likely.
 
Perhaps in the short term it will be that expensive but once things settle and the supply chain catches up I just dont believe it will be that extreme Spymaster.
What does Spring have to with anyway?
If so it won't be long before the industry burys itself.
 
My impression is that semi-auto guns are slowly becoming more available (high prices on AR's and AK's aside), but ammo is not. Not exactly what I would've expected at the beginning of all of this, as nobody had talked about banning ammo.

I see a few small shipments come into most local outlets, but they usually get sold out in short order. There is one very small shop locally that seems surprisingly savvy on getting ammo in and selling it at a decent, though slightly inflated, price. As a result, they're getting a LOT of business.

Get the impression that Walmart is rather indifferent on ammo inventory. They probably make more money selling bed sheets and detergent :)
 
What does Spring have to with anyway?

Activity levels spike exponentially, people go outside again, especially shooting sports people! Few active shooters ever go to a range, public, or private, most shooting is done on ones own property, in nice weather, and there is often no better shooting weather then in the spring when the bugs are yet dormant, but the temps mild.
 
Except for 22LR (which I don't shoot)... Around here availability doesn't seem to be the issue, it's more about how much you're willing to pay. I'm not willing to pay $500/1000 for 9MM or 40S&W range ammo.

I have things setup so that when I get an availability email, a filter in Gmail sends a text message to my phone so I can login and order before it sells out (9MM goes quick at $289/1000 delivered).

Regardless, the ammo shortages are perplexing and I wonder what really is the root-cause.
 
Right now my local Walmart has 100 round boxes of 55 grain Federal FMJ 223 at 32.95 a box. They have Federal 100 round White Box 9mm and 45 acp for 44.95 per box. Went in with a friend just a minute ago who came by to use my new indoor range to play with a couple new pistols and wanted some extra ammo. They had no buyer limit, we each bought 3 boxes of the 223 and he purchased 100 rounds of 45 and 100 of 9mm. Gun Department guy says it is staying on the shelf long enough that he seldom sells completely out before next order comes in.

So if y'all continue to listen to the predictions of doom and gloom, continue to panic, run your cards to the max on overpriced gunbroker, other internet ammo gougers your wasting cash and feeding the beast. I am going to list the 300 rounds I just bought to see how goofy folks are going to get. If they do what I think they are, I am going back tomorrow for another 300. You are allowing this insanity to continue by not calming down. I paid 98.85 thus 105.77 with tax. I expect this to sell for 300 bucks plus shipping by morning. Can you blame me? You would too.

Our U.S. manufacturers have the capability to make 1 billion rounds a week and they have not quit. This internet buzz and false belief that seems to be permeating the gun culture that ammo no longer exists is just putting money in the people who know how to buy it pockets while others are bleeding themselves to the bone by paying three to four times what ammo is worth. Please stop putting money in my pocket. I am starting to worry that if folks don't quit this panic, the market might actually get messed up for a really long time. As long as YOU make it EASY for folks to TRIPLE their money or MORE selling AMMO you are the PROBLEM. This is meant to be a wake up call, not a taunt or chastisement. Please, chill out!
 
Problem is that even with a production output of 1 billion rounds a week it just won't cut it. First thing is gov. needs come before us regular folk. After that need is met then the whole country needs to be restocked and that is going to take a very long time. Proof is found in the nearly 10 billion rounds produced yet there is no ammo on the shelf in gun stores nationwide nor is there the ability to order it from people like Midway. Its simply not available nor can it be backordered. Ammo prices will continue to rise and the shortages will continue. Lets all hope that the machined used to produce ammo don't breakdown.
 
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Bushmaster1313, I am already seeing gun deals cropping up where people went and maxed credit cards at panic prices who's bills are coming due with not enough cash to cover their expenditures. Also seeing people that bought at the peak, seeing shelves restocking and prices slipping a bit trying to minimize potential losses by cashing out that second or third gun they bought on an impulse due to the train of thought that keeps threads like this perpetuating.

I have been playing this game for 35 years. I saw the Bush1 panic, the Clinton panic, post shooting panics and now the Obama threats that look like they have as much teeth as his promise to have the troops home within 100 days of taking office. So are they home? There have been 3.5 times as many combat deaths during the first four years of this administration than the entire eight of the previous administration. Instead of just troops in Iraq & Afghanistan we can now add Pakistan, Libya, Uganda, Congo, South Sudan, Niger and the Central African Republic. (who did I miss?) Thus I don't take his already passed threat for immediate Executive Orders or significant legislation banning our Second Amendment Rights at the Federal level. He doesn't have the juice to get it done along with socialized medicine and solving global warming. They are going to tighten up a few things like unrecorded sales by private citizens and maybe a few other minor pieces then call it a major victory in keeping the public safe.

Thus, if the people new to the gun game. Or who have short memories about how this game has played out in the past. Remember the gun control act of 1934 (NFA but I can still pay 200 bucks to play that game)? Or the one in 1968? (I was five years old at the time but 45 years later I can still buy a pistol at a fair price) Yes, they keep carving little slices of the pie and they may eventually eat the whole darned thing but not this time. So once again, the inexperienced panic, others profit and eventually it all normalizes again while some of the players get fat but more take a bath in the end due to their inability to control their panic emotions. The sooner they calm down, the sooner the press forgets about it, the sooner this all levels out and then we all go back to shooting while the number of guns in private hands goes up by 30% or more.

O.K. All together, take a deeeep breath, Innnn, Ouuut. Repeat. Say to yourself its going to be alright. I AM NOT GOING TO PANIC ANYORE. Stop overpaying, be patient, its going to all work out. Just a tip from Uncle Huey. Of course, its all conjecture on my part based on past history, I do not own, nor do I trust a crystal ball.

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Queen of Thunder. Ammo is coming back slowly. Not everywhere and not immediately and the reason is that as long as people stay in fight or flight mode, people like me have too much incentive to use our experience to gather large percentages of the product and keep it off the shelves so that the panic crowd continues to pay a buck a round and allow venture capitalists to triple their money. Just another commodity that has gone loopy due to fear. Once people stop paying triple price or even double, the incentive for the "gougers" as investors are being called these days comes to an end and it sits on the shelves long enough for the less crafty to acquire at a reasonable price. It is just so simple that I cannot fathom why its so hard for the masses to grasp. I really am trying to be honest and help. That said, I gotta jump sites and sell some ammo.
 
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Huey: I see one problem with that. Yes, I'm sure a bunch of people maxed out their credit cards. I'm also sure though that there were FIFTY other people standing behind them that never got a chance to max out THEIRS because someone else got to the goods before they did. So until those 50 are able to buy what they think they need, this won't stop.
 
It's still a famine. I tried to help a kid find some .30 Carbine ammo online yesterday. It was cheap when it wasn't available and was not usually available even when it was grotesquely expensive.

Anecdotal, but, a place I go to who always had the particualar .22 I like listes 14 types of Federal .22 LR -- the only one in stock was birdshot shells.
 
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I agree with Huey. Just say no. If you can't find reasonably priced ammo, then just don't shoot.
 
I agree with Huey. Just say no. If you can't find reasonably priced ammo, then just don't shoot.

Yes

But in New Jersey they are trying to ban online ammo sales.
This will make it hard for me to get my favorite ammo, Fiocchi reduced recoil 12 gauge 00 Buck: 12LE00BK

It will also make it hard for me to get an assortment of .257 Roberts and reduced recoil .270
 
But in New Jersey they are trying to ban online ammo sales.
This will make it hard for me to get my favorite ammo, Fiocchi reduced recoil 12 gauge 00 Buck: 12LE00BK

It may cost, but your local FFL may be able to order some for you from his distributor and then sell it to you.
 
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