An overlooked survival tool

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BornLoser

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Hello.

I feel I should talk about this keen insight I had about an important survival tool that is often overlooked. I know a lot of gun nuts(like myself) but usually, when we talk survival, we're mostly just talking about AR's and 5.56. Or bows.

One thing I have noticed, is that the .177 cal pellet gun is over looked as a survival tool. It's often looked at as a kids hunting toy, but really, when it comes to survival, this is a great gun. For one, if you wanna talk about Ammo... for 20 bucks, i can buy tens of thousands of rounds. Pellets and BB's are nice, because you don't have to worry so much about age or currosion. No dates or lot numbers.

Next, the actual use of this tool. Granted, you won't be bringing down any deer, coyotes, or wild dogs with this. Not a problem at all. But, what you can bring down with this, are countless numbers of birds, rabbits, squirrels, mink... even cats and rats if things are bad enough. You can even re-use the BB's if they don't go all the way through. That's just handy as hell, in my book.

Now... I'm not saying it's better than anything (like a .22 LR), but, it's definitely a survival took that we should not forget about, or write off as children's toys. You can go out fishing, pop a couple of birds, and there's dinner, fish 'n bird. Yum :D Pop a couple of turtle doves in the winter, mmmm good eatin'.

In the long run, I think it's one of the handiest 'survival tools' ever made. :cool:
 
I have a very strong diana pellet gun and it kicks just as much as my .22 does!

I like target shooting with it more than with my .22s, and its very very accurate.
 
Very good post. The air rifle does get overlooked and can be quite effective when forced to eat off the land. Being quiet is an added bonus.
 
Yep...
The air rifle is overlooked. High quality ones built for hunting are IMO quite capable of taking down a deer, with a head shot. And since we're talking survival, anyone capable of taking out squirrels and rabits with an air rifle is capable of stalking a deer to the point where a head shot is easy.
 
An excellent observation. Some of these newer rifles are pushing 1200FPS...pretty impressive. If they can be used to take out street lights, I'm sure they can take most manner of small game. Oft overlooked indeed.
 
I bought a Daisy 1000 (I think Remington or Ruger made it) and it sure suprised the heck out of me! They sure have come a long wasy since the old Red Ryder lol
 
i spent countless hours in my back yard when i was in college with my crossman multi pump. took down some birds, huge wasp, lots of starbucks frap bottle, AOL spam discs, etc - maybe 8-9 yrs ago. Still works good, I passed it down to one of my cousins.
 
Also overlooked for survival use is the muzzle loader. If you know what you are doing you can make your own black powder. And if you have the proper molds any source of lead can be made into projectiles.
In a pinch you can get random standard ammo you might find, pull the projectiles and melt them down to cast your own. and there is a formula that would let you cut down the amount of smokless powder to equal your standard black powder charge in power.
 
i spent countless hours in my back yard when i was in college with my crossman multi pump. took down some birds, huge wasp

In the summer, the wasps find their way into my screened in back porch and I sit out there with my trusty daisy single pump and dissect them while relaxing after work. You know, the more I think about it the more it makes since why they are making their way in :)
 
...huge wasp...

A wonderful and rare trophy indeed...what was the wingspan!

Seriously, I took out quite a few birds and squirrels (and flies and wasps, actually) when I was a kid with a 760 Pumpmaster my dad had purchased in the 70's. Looks just like the ones today but it was METAL with a little brass bolt instead of a piece of plastic. I wish they were still made that way. It was nice and heavy. I agree air rifles would be great survival tools.
 
I've got a Beeman R9 with a 9X scope on it. It's a .177 break-action, 1,000FPS rifle, and they have some great little pellets for them these days. Pointed ones as well as hollow points, and they're different weights as well. Very accurate.

I live on a lake and there are geese that routinely leave human-sized "land mines" on my lawn... so I use the pellet rifle to tickle their tail feathers, so to speak. I take only broadside shots at tails, so I don't have any dead birds to clean up. I have just enough neighbors that someone would complain.... anyway, it's a 45 yard shot from my door to the geese and I have no problem hitting what I aim at. It would take out a rat at that distance, I have no doubt. I just haven't seen a rat yet.
 
I think the reason they are overlooked is,

For the cost of the airgun, a decent scope capable of withstanding the spring recoil and the pellets, you can buy thousands upon thousands of 22lr.

More than you would ever need to hunt for a LONG time.
 
Raindodger do you feel thats ethical to shoot geese with a pellet rifle? I mean it lodges in their flesh no? will that cause slow lead poisoning?

I say kill em or let them live but dont wound em. Maybe I am misunderstanding.
 
Yes, you're misunderstanding. I don't take any shot that would hit anything but the tail feathers - no shots that would harm them. If I don't get a clear, broadside shot like that, I only smack the water next to them and they generally fly off.

It's amazing how they learn... by the end of a spring season, when the geese see me through my window, approaching the door, they move off, away from the yard.

No, I would not harm them.
 
I think the reason they are overlooked is,

For the cost of the airgun, a decent scope capable of withstanding the spring recoil and the pellets, you can buy thousands upon thousands of 22lr.

More than you would ever need to hunt for a LONG time.

You can get a good pellet gun from Walmart for under $40.00. Scope is not neccessary.

That's only about 2000 rounds of 22.
 
Another factor is the noise. Even a relitivly powerfull air rifle is much quieter than a .22 rifle. This could be importiant in a survival situation when you did not want to draw too much attention to your location from would be looters, the government or forign invaders.
 
I have a very strong diana pellet gun and it kicks just as much as my .22 does!

You can get some pretty stout pellet guns these days.

Not to take the thunder away from this, but even the stoutest of air rifles is well behind the lowly .22 Short in terms of power.

The OP has a great point in their use as a survival tool for getting small game, and coutless rabbits and squirrels fell victim to my RWS model 34 and .20 caliber Sheridan when I was growing up. BUT......they're still pretty anemic, and when it comes to dispatching anything larger than a rabbit, results are iffy and 100% dependent on perfect shot placement.

Also, air rifles seldom make the round count that a .22 will. pump-up guns begin to leak, and spring types suffer from degrading piston seals. A bolt-action .22 is good for how many tens of thousands (if not millions) of rounds?
 
In an emergency situation.......

................(and I'm not really a SHTF type of guy), I can get game rather quietly with a Barnett Rhino crossbow and an AirForce Talon SS (google it) airgun in .22 caliber. Gotta save the ammo for the alleged zombies.:eek:


"when it comes to dispatching anything larger than a rabbit, results are iffy and 100% dependent on perfect shot placement."

I know for a fact that the Talon SS PCP will drop a feral cat. 100% shot placement still applies. It is now possible to get airguns that go clear up to .50 caliber that drop deer.
 
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Very good point -

I bought my Sheridan 5mm Blue Streak in 1969.

Still going strong,

And will never be on the "sell" list.

Plenty of punch for small game.

isher
 
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