Another student "Thought Crime"

[xjchief]

Wow what would they say about me if I was arrested?

I have a bunch of guns including, but not limited to, the evil AK-47 and the black gun of death, the AR15. I have several thousand rounds of ammo for each and a bunch more for the others. I've even got body armor! (So it's a vintage Vietnam ear flak jacket but body armor sounds much more dangerous).

Does it matter that I get a great discount for purchasing ammo in bulk? Does it matter that I have the flak jacket as a part of a display for my M715 truck (I mean my deadly military assault vehicle) that I take to car shows?

Man with all that on my resume already I'm glad I sold my M35A1 this summer! They say I was in the planning phases of world domination.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

think all gunowners that attend college should get together and wear a vest to school on the same day. too bad they are so expensive.

Nope, but we are wearing empty holsters next week to protest. Check the link in my sig.

 

[ilbob]

I just can't see anything illegal that he did, other than maybe shooting at a newspaper box. But, the article is vague enough the its hard to tell just what that was about.

The really scary part is this:

'Newberry displayed a great knowledge of assault weapons, police body armor, and knowledge of defeating body armor for the purpose of killing human beings,' an officer said in a police report.

The officer wrote that he '...believes Newberry is training and arming himself for some future illegal event.'

So now anyone that can pull a trigger and actually hit the target and understands that the way to defeat body armor is to shoot where it ain't is a threat? And can be locked up with bail set at $600,000???

I sure hope there is more to this than the article reported.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

All I see out of this is a poor kid getting railroaded because he isn't a genius and doesn't have a good lawyer. This could easily have been one of us. He did nothing wrong ( I don't smoke but see nothing wrong with him smoking in the privacy of his own home) and was arrested on false charges. The sheeple are going to stand around and let the media tell them what he was planning. This kid needs a good NRA lawyer and fast. In the past a nation of riflemen would have seen no harm in what he did, but a nation of scared sheeple is going to send him to jail for being scared of his own life.

 

[Ithaca37]

An LPD officer in the store when Newberry purchased the gun asked him why he was buying it. Newberry could not provide a good reason, Dunn said.

'Right about that time interest peaked in him,' Dunn said.

Last time I checked I didn't have to provide a reason for wanting to exercise my rights. Is this something new?

Is that grounds for a police investigation? If so, then the Gestapo really does run things.

The kid may be weird, but he hasn't actually done anything. On what grounds are they doing this to him? Being odd is not a legitimate reason for detaining and harassing someone.

 

[Fedaykin]

after this talk of people getting called in for forum postings maybe i should have been a little more creative w/ my login. oh well. if joe douchebag wants to call me in i'm not all that worried, i'll give them a tour.

 

[TexasRifleman]

after this talk of people getting called in for forum postings maybe i should have been a little more creative w/ my login. oh well. if joe douchebag wants to call me in i'm not all that worried, i'll give them a tour.

Oh don't fret, the Black Helicopter People know who you are anyway

 

[.cheese.]

Oh don't fret, the Black Helicopter People know who you are anyway

no they don't.... that's why I keep inflatable sex dolls in front of all the windows.

 

[Stephen21B]

Hold on there Spacecadet thats not what I was getting at at all I simply meant that considering the liberal mindset on college campuses going into the military seemed to be a much better choice, I can get all the "schooling" I want and get paid for it and there is always the G.I. bill should I ever choose to go to college in the future, and as for the "searching my home" crack well quite simply I'm a gun nerd like most everyone else on here I've also been practicing the martial arts since I was 7 so a search of my house would uncover Books and videos illustrating how to damage/destroy the human body dozens of martial arts weapons and 40 firearms (mostly hunting rifles and shotguns that I inherited from my grandparents) but also "assault" weapons and pistols and lots of ammo all of which will be staying at the family homestead when I leave for basic. also how do you put those quote boxes in your post?

 

[mike101]

There was a piece on the news a while back about bullet-proof back packs. Some anti-gun pansy parents were all for it. How is this any different?

These days, wearing a vest to school doesn't sound like such a bad idea.

 

[Caimlas]

Here's the thing about the press: It's entirely likely that he was arrested under false premises or manufactured evidence. However, the media isn't going to report that, because guns are involved: they want the guy to be guilty of -something- because, after all, he bought a gun.

Oh yeah, and at some schools, it's 100% reasonable to wear a bullet proof vest. There are more than likely some schools in the country where it's more statistically likely for there to be a shooting, stabbing, or other violent attack at the school than it is for it to rain.

 

[spaceCADETzoom]

Hold on there Spacecadet thats not what I was getting at at all[...] A search of my house would uncover [...]martial arts weapons and 40 firearms ... "assault" weapons and pistols and lots of ammo all of which will be staying at the family homestead when I leave for basic. also how do you put those quote boxes in your post?

But that IS what I'M getting at. Just because we're soldiers doesn't mean there's this natural understanding on private gun ownership. THere isn't. Soldiers are just like any other Americans. We run the gamut from "guns should only be for professionals," to "the only gun control is using two hands." And no matter where individuals are on the scale, the nanny-state "force protection" will deny you owning any of those things you mention in the barracks you will most likely be living in after AIT as a jr enlisted man. Even your issued weapon is locked up...and when you're allowed to carry it...you will not have ammunition for it. Life as a private living on post is the ultimate picture of the government "protecting you" from yourself. It is the picture of what many politicians and "well-meaning" soccer moms want in the country.

I am not saying it's right or wrong or necessary. But it is what it is. There are more than plenty of people in uniform that do not want privately owned weapons for any AMerican. And the majority of soldiers do not know anything about guns beyond what they were trained on. Ask Wesley Clark. DOn't think the "culture" is any different than "liberal" college campuses (you don't mean actual liberal, BTW...you're using "liberal" like RUsh Limbaugh, wrongly). The military, by definition is not liberal--it is authoritarian. I am ok with that because we're in this organization by choice, we accept these limits by choice.

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[Stephen21B]

Alright I think I understand where your coming from now, thanks for clarifying your views for me and sorry everybody for hijacking this thread.

 

[akattack]

frankcostanza
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Join Date: 07-27-07
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"wow if they call 2 guns, a taser and a vest a "weapons cache" what does that make most of our collections? " Probably a finding that we are terrorists. I suppose we should expect to be hauled off to GITMO or some such place. The news media really is not worth watching anymore.