woodybrighton2
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discusion on another board about routine armed patrols around parts of london this is the response. won't name the board as board wars achive nothing and are far from high road. mentioning maybe allowing people to own weapons for self defence got this response
But not all robbers, still less all criminals, are 'hardened thugs,' and even in the case of those who are I'd rather be faced with them carrying a knife than a gun, which would be far more likely to be the case if guns were easier (and cheaper) to obtain. And even if I could and was prepared to (which I'm not) carry a gun in self-defence, I'd probably still come off worse because I'd be far less willing to pull it out and use it.
victim basically a sheep won't defend himself and belives nobody should try to fight bad guys as they'd get hurt
I don't believe that concealed-carry laws would achieve anything other than more fights escalating into shoot-outs, frankly. I'm well aware that there are societies with such laws, very high rates of gun ownership and very low crime rates, but the reasons for that are in large measure social, cultural and economic, as are the reasons for some societies with high gun ownership and the rest being very violent. You are quite right to suggest that it's silly to blame guns for the actions of the people who fire them, but the actions of those people are conditioned by the societies in which they live. My (rather pessimistic) assessment of British society is that mass carrying of firearms would lead to them being used far more than they are now, and would not effect a significant reduction in crime.
2nd bit more intelligent but British people if allowed to own guns would go berserk and shoot everyone
3rd person
is a total knobber. The idea that we'll all be safer from criminals if a wider selection of guns is widely available is patently crackers, especially given the experience of the USA. more guns = more criminals with guns and anyone who contemplates owning a weapon is a dangerous nutter and should be locked up.
So criminals can have guns cause they don't shoot many normal people. but law abiding people can't have guns cause we'd go mad and shoot everybody
But not all robbers, still less all criminals, are 'hardened thugs,' and even in the case of those who are I'd rather be faced with them carrying a knife than a gun, which would be far more likely to be the case if guns were easier (and cheaper) to obtain. And even if I could and was prepared to (which I'm not) carry a gun in self-defence, I'd probably still come off worse because I'd be far less willing to pull it out and use it.
victim basically a sheep won't defend himself and belives nobody should try to fight bad guys as they'd get hurt
I don't believe that concealed-carry laws would achieve anything other than more fights escalating into shoot-outs, frankly. I'm well aware that there are societies with such laws, very high rates of gun ownership and very low crime rates, but the reasons for that are in large measure social, cultural and economic, as are the reasons for some societies with high gun ownership and the rest being very violent. You are quite right to suggest that it's silly to blame guns for the actions of the people who fire them, but the actions of those people are conditioned by the societies in which they live. My (rather pessimistic) assessment of British society is that mass carrying of firearms would lead to them being used far more than they are now, and would not effect a significant reduction in crime.
2nd bit more intelligent but British people if allowed to own guns would go berserk and shoot everyone
3rd person
is a total knobber. The idea that we'll all be safer from criminals if a wider selection of guns is widely available is patently crackers, especially given the experience of the USA. more guns = more criminals with guns and anyone who contemplates owning a weapon is a dangerous nutter and should be locked up.
So criminals can have guns cause they don't shoot many normal people. but law abiding people can't have guns cause we'd go mad and shoot everybody
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