Any History of Weapons Confiscation or Registration in the U.S.?

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I'm wondering about U. S. precedence to an all out weapons confiscation like England and Australia have enacted.

Other than the Kali AWB, were there any other cases of forced registration or confiscations of firearms in this country?

What happened to the current owners of machine guns when the NFA was enacted in 1934? Were they allowed to keep them, were they required to register them, or what?
 
NYC passed a law in the '60s requiring registration of long guns and swearing up and down that it would never be used for confiscation.

Guess what?


As far as NFA '34 goes, in its original form it only required the purchase of a tax stamp if you wanted to transport your NFA weapon across state lines. (That was the only way they thought they could get it past the Supremes, as Congress does have the constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce.) Later activist courts, power-grabbing congresses and apathetic citizens have knuckled under to the concept that everything is "interstate commerce", and so the requirements of the NFA have expanded to the draconian ones we have today.
 
Latest is in California where folks were told by one Atty Gen. it was OK to register detachable magazine SKS after the closing date. New Atty Gen. comes in and says turn them in or get rid of them. No door to door confiscation though.:mad:
 
NYC passed a law in the '60s requiring registration of long guns and swearing up and down that it would never be used for confiscation.

Guess what?
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So the citizens were forced to turn them in? What happened to those who didn't?
 
Just thought of something. We know that our citizens of Japanese ancestry residing on the West Coast were rounded up and sent to camps. I never read about any guns but I betcha they weren't allowed to bring those to the camps. Must have been compelled to sell any that they may have had. Anybody got any other info?
 
If my understanding of the history is correct there were two regisration periods in for handguns in DC. One in 76, and a second one in 77. People who made the first registration date, but not the second one recieved a visit from MPD requesting that they turn over their guns. Moszt who missed the second date apparently didn't care enough to keep them.
 
Bubba wanted Andrew Cuomo to do gun sweeps and warrantless searches of the Eloi cubicles in public housing. If memory serves, the A.K.L.U. sued, and got the Supremes to find Der Fuehrer's orders unconstitutional.
 
It's my understanding that a bunch of left-wing states, including California, New York, and most of the mid-Atlantic states, require handgun registration. The big cities are the worst. NYC's laws go back to the Sullivan Act before WWI. Chicago imposed its first anti-gun laws after the hyped-up gang wars of the Prohibition era. In most large cities there simply is no legitimate gun culture. If you have a firearm it means you're a cop or a criminal, and frankly there ain't much difference between them in places like NYC or Chicago. They're all thugs. The criminals at least will usually leave you alone if you don't mess with them.
 
Hawaii has gun registration laws. During WWII they forced all gun owners to turn them into the state.
How many got them back I don't know.
 
If my understanding of the history is correct there were two regisration periods in for handguns in DC. One in 76, and a second one in 77. People who made the first registration date, but not the second one recieved a visit from MPD requesting that they turn over their guns.
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How did they know who didn't register? NICS wasn't around yet.
 
DMK- Looks like the DC popo just looked at who had registered in '76, and failed to show up again in '77. They just used some deduction, and decided to pay a visit to those who didn't show up for the second registration attempt.

As for other attempts at confiscation, if you want to go back further the, the first gun-control laws in the country were Jim Crow laws passed to keep former slaves from being armed. (Incidentally, just about the only Jim Crow laws still on the books are gun control laws. Think about it.)

Further back than that, and there are incidents such as the disarmament that was then closely followed by the systematic slaughter of the men, women and children of the Lakota Sioux.
 
Further back than that, and there are incidents such as the disarmament that was then closely followed by the systematic slaughter of the men, women and children of the Lakota Sioux.
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Strange how Oppression/Genocide or the like, allways seems to follow Dissarmaments isn't it?:scrutiny:
 
Outright confiscation is rare, and the politicos know it's dangerous, so you don't see too many examples.

Each and every one, however, was preceded by a registration period.

Another typical move is to ban a certain category of firearm, but "grandfather" in previous firearm/owner combinations, with no provisions for additional transfers. The "grandfathering" method is usually via registration, so they can tell who "legitimately owns" a banned firearm, and who "illegally owns" the same thing.

NJ's awb (upon which the federal awb is modelled) did that: You had till xx/yy/zzzz to register, and then the window was shut. After that, get found with one, and off to jail you went.

In fact, the biggest functional diff between the fed awb and NJ's is that grandfathering mechanism, which they knew would never fly nationwide, but only in socialist hellholes.
 
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Is there a link that has a list of the history of Registration followed by Weapons Confiscation here in the US?
 
Outright confiscation is rare, and the politicos know it's dangerous, so you don't see too many examples.

Each and every one, however, was preceded by a registration period.

The "grandfathering" method is usually via registration, so they can tell who "legitimately owns" a banned firearm, and who "illegally owns" the same thing ... After that, get found with one, and off to jail you went.
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And there's the damned if you do damned if you don't part. :fire:

If you do register, there's a 50/50 chance that they'll come get them anyway. If you don't register, you are anomymous for now, but forget ever being able to shoot the thing or God help you if you ever had to defend your life with it. Plus the fact that you will always be looking over your shoulder like some actual criminal.

It really is sickening to think about how far we have come .... downhill that is. :(
 
It's my understanding that a bunch of left-wing states, including California, New York, and most of the mid-Atlantic states, require handgun registration.
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Well in Kali there is no required registration. They ask that we voluntarily register our handguns to "help in the case of theft". [Understatement] It's not a great place to be a gun owner but it's not that bad. [/understatement]. All I can say is that everyone on this board should vote and be active. The only reason we'll keep our rights is because we are vigilant about keeping them. I keep hoping for shall issue here. I still dream and vote.

Scott
 
If memory serves, the A.K.L.U. sued, and got the Supremes to find Der Fuehrer's orders unconstitutional.
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I read that and thought, "No way, the ACLU doesn't like the 2nd amendment" and then I realized they must of fought it on the 4th amendment and not that evil 2nd.
 
Extension to this thread:

How many states have "de-facto" firearms registration, for either handgun or long gun, beyond the NICS form?

Example: NJ requires you to get a pistol purchase permit, listing your name, address, make, model and serial number, which is filed with the state. While technically not a "registration", it certainly is de-facto.


So, what I'm looking for is a headcount of states that require a piece of paper that ties an owner to a specific firearm, whether the mechanism is "safety check", or any other disingenious lie.
 
So, what I'm looking for is a headcount of states that require a piece of paper that ties an owner to a specific firearm, whether the mechanism is "safety check", or any other disingenious lie.
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Good question. That would certainly allow them to figure out who has a certain type of gun, then hunt you down if they ever decided that it was illegal to own one.

NC has a permit system for handguns, but it's just a redundant background check. There's no way to tie it to a particular gun, or even use it to prove that I ever actually bought one.
 
In Michigan, you to purchase a handgun, you must either obtain a purchase permit in advance from the police, or posesss a concealed wepaons permit. In either case, you must take the handgun to the police for a so-called "safety inspection" within ten days of purchase.

The "safety inspection" is a running joke here. It is registration, pure and simple.
 
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