ANY way to get a CCW under 21 in FL?

[Funderb]

I do agree with you, but your personal finances are not the issue here, kimbertle.45

There are a lot of people around that think they are "da only ones prufessunal enuf to handle a glock fotay"

 

[gym]

Welll there is always the military, laws are always biased in some shape or another. It can be said about drivers license's also. But perhaps when you consider the possible mistakes that men make in their teenage years vs their 20's it may make sense.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

Wow so much material,

First glad to see people don't like the idea of me protecting myself.

With out proper training the gun is useless

I agree I support new federal law to require a intense 6 week course for gun ownership that a Marine could not pass.

I think that's a good rule.

So is registering your gun after all it's not like that could be misused.

do you think that the age requirement in all CCW laws should be lowered to 18 years old?

You Bet.

Hoplophile, at your age, you should be focusing on getting good grades and saving money for college. Stop playing out all sorts of manly man gunslinging fantasies and complaining about them not being possible to your internet friends. Try picking up a couple extra hours at work, sign up for another AP class, and stop your whining.

I'm not even going to start with that unless somebody ask's me.

I'm all about gun rights and RKBA, but at 18 (or 19) you should worry about school like has been said. Also If you live home, make plans to get a place of your own. Further your career/job. If your that nervous, take a self defense class. (street fighting, knife fighting/defensive use, and maby a martial arts of some sort,)

Now if I was 21 and asked that you would tell me to get a CCW. So when I turn 21 I magically am less of a liability that a 20yr and 364 day old person, Gotcha.

MOST 19 year olds are more responsible than 21 right

You could put me in the category of people with big feet.....I just don't see how age affects this, what about disable people who cant run, or older people who cant see well?

I'm all about gun rights and RKBA

So far I don't see that.

 

[KiltedClaymore]

just carry a EBR on your shoulder (if legal, it is in AZ) with a uber hi cap mag locked in

 

[Mannlicher]

I always get a kick out of those "holier than thou" folks that are so quick to respond with "thats not very High Road" to an opinion they don't like.

But to address the issue, when laws are passed they are almost always a compromise effort. In Florida, those in the Senate and House that were against the bill, did put in the age of 21. Those Senators and House members supporting the bill, accepted that in order to get the bill passed.
There was a LOT more back and forth, but in the end, we got a fairly workable bill. Florida was one of the very first to institute a shall issue license system.
It is not perfect, but it is light years better than when the local Sheriff would issue or not issue a permit, based on who you were and who you knew.

I wish the lad could get his Florida CCW permit now, and I agree that he has just as much right to defend himself as anyone over that magic age standard.

 

[Ltlabner]

An age has to be picked. The age chosen in this case is 21. Could have been 18 or 20 or 35 for that matter.

But no matter what age is chosen someome below the cutoff will claim, "but I'm way more mature that that, why can't I do it".

Sorry folks, but the way the law works as it is the magic age in this scenario, right or wrong, is 21.

Put your energy into getting the law changed, not trying to sneak around it.

 

[dmxx9900]

I would love to be able to carry but I have to wait till 2011 till I can get the carry permit I live in Florida too.
Only thing that is closest to carry that I can do is have a knife in my pocket and a pistol in the car for defense.
By the time I move to a different state like Tenessee or wherever I will be 21 by then and there is no use complaining because its just around the corner but is still pisses me off that I am like a 2nd class citizen(a mix of rights like I can vote,but cant buy beer,I can fight in a war,but cant get a ccw,etc) not a 3rd class(felons,illegal immigrants,"minors",and mental defectives.)They have no rights really just to live and have a house,job,drive a car depending what they did or who they are,and own property,and maybe gamble if they are a certain age.
but not 1st class full fledged free citizen(like most of you who can buy machine guns,get a ccw,do most all things I wrote above).

What state you live in may change your status of how free you are you could live in New Jersey and have the same rights as me but if you lived in Arizona you would have more rights then me.Visa Verca my point is there is a big mix up when it comes to rights and responsibility based on what age you are and where you live.
I just started my first job and when I am out there in the real world when I do my electrician job I should have the right to get a ccw because when I am out there driving through strange neighborhoods or places to get to my job I want a simple gun on my side to be there when s**t happens.

But all I can do now is have it in the console box.At least Florida had enough sense to allow car carry for protection but Tennessee they dont give a rats a** if you need a gun for protection or not in your car if you dont have a ccw you have to have the gun in the trunk and unloaded. I looked up the law there they dont allow car carry like here in Florida so if something happens while you are in the car your gun is in the trunk unloaded and useless all you can do if you are still alive is sue or file a lawsuit against the Tennessee police and Tennessee state government for failing to allow you to protect yourself and not doing there job especially the fact you are heading to work or taking care of stuff while driving.

And there are many states like Tennessee if you dont have a ccw you cant have the gun in the passenger area loaded even in a snapped holster or glovebox it has to be in the trunk and unloaded how useless is that you might as well carry a pair of scissors with you at least you can do something with them when you need something right away.Now Texas is fine by me its more lax then Florida when it comes to car carry and what not.

 

[MaterDei]

You're right.

The law is wrong.

Work to change it and in the mean time remember that it is better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.

 

[Jason M]

Hoplophile, at your age, you should be focusing on getting good grades and saving money for college. Stop playing out all sorts of manly man gunslinging fantasies and complaining about them not being possible to your internet friends. Try picking up a couple extra hours at work, sign up for another AP class, and stop your whining.

Can anyone say Ass?

wow, for a bunch of "supposedly" pro gun guys, you all sure are negative to someone thats just starting out. He's got the same rights as you, but you're on your high horse looking down at him... So Much for High road.

Amen.

I've left all the other gun forums I've posted on before for this one because I heard it wasn't like this as badly as others out there. But, Christ, I guess nothing is sacred.

Hoplophile,

Unfortunately, you can't apply for the permit until you are 21. But as it was stated you can open carry in your home and you can keep the firearm (pistol) concealed within your car in a secured manner (glove box, center console, under the seat in a holster, etc.).

Don't be discouraged by the elitists who look down on the new guys. I was 19 six year ago and I remember all to well, even then, people getting all high on their horse when I asked questions about new gun things I was getting interested in.

I think it's quite un-American to send some 18 year olds to defend the country and deny others the right to defend themselves.

As simple as it sounds, its not that simple. The folks who enlist in our armed services and go to fight for their country represent a minority of the youth that are responsible enough to understand what it means to live free and the potential price it can cost. They live up to a higher standard and a much more prideful venture than having a CWP.

The remainder of the youth at age 18 are irresponsible little $#!@s who have no business even having access to a firearm, much less carrying one. Heplophile seems to represent a smaller portion of they 18-20 year old youth who have a smart hair on their head and know what it means be responsible.

I would not feel the least bit safer if all 18 year olds had a CCW.

-Jason

 

[Gunnerpalace]

I would not feel the least bit safer if all 18 year olds had a CCW.

What about gangbangers who do it now illegally?

 

[Jason M]

What about gangbangers who do it now illegally?

How is that question relevant to my comment? I was referring to the legal carry of a CCW by 18 year olds.

Of course I don't want gangbangers of any age to carry a concealed weapon.

 

[RevolvingCylinder]

Hoplophile, at your age, you should be focusing on getting good grades and saving money for college. Stop playing out all sorts of manly man gunslinging fantasies and complaining about them not being possible to your internet friends. Try picking up a couple extra hours at work, sign up for another AP class, and stop your whining.

Maybe you should give up carrying because of your "manly man gunslinging fantasies" as well since that's what carrying for self-defense is all about according to your statement.

You might have still been in high school at the age of 19 but the OP probably isn't. He also never mentioned anything about his job situation. He might even be working full time. Not all of us lived the same sheltered life that you may have lived at that age. Some of us had to provide for ourselves or even(as in my case) took responsibilities that most 21 and older never took and enlisted.

 

[theken206]

agenda for the day I turn 21. file for WA CPL, pick up expensive bottle of scotch.

 

[Stauble]

Quote:
Hoplophile, at your age, you should be focusing on getting good grades and saving money for college. Stop playing out all sorts of manly man gunslinging fantasies and complaining about them not being possible to your internet friends. Try picking up a couple extra hours at work, sign up for another AP class, and stop your whining.

Best advice I have seen on this board in a long time. +1

Well kind and loving gentlemen I too am 19 and due to the fact that I am in college, I can’t take any AP classes.
Thank you for the useless advice though.
Keep up the good work for the 2nd Amendment.

Hoplophile, where in Florida did you move to? We have a fairly pro-gun congress, and Gov. Crist is pretty solidly pro-gun as well.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

How is that question relevant to my comment? I was referring to the legal carry of a CCW by 18 year olds.

Of course I don't want gangbangers of any age to carry a concealed weapon

You said you don't feel safer about the ones with CCW's, I was asking how you felt about all the crooks the same age who are doing it regardless.