Any words for palmetto state armory?
- Thread starter Robk13
- Start date
- Status
redneck2
Member
I’d keep a couple things in mind....
PSA sells a gazillion items each year. By default, a very small percentage may have issues. I’ve dealt with them several times and everything was as advertised
As noted, if some people got something free, they’d complain that they didn’t get two free
PSA sells a gazillion items each year. By default, a very small percentage may have issues. I’ve dealt with them several times and everything was as advertised
As noted, if some people got something free, they’d complain that they didn’t get two free
hanno
Member
Another satisfied PSA customer. Will order from them again, no hesitation.
Stevie-Ray
Member
Got my PA-10 late last year. Had to order it in two pieces, plus magazines, as they had zero finished rifles at the time. Got the lower with the Geissele trigger. Love it. Can't wait to put some more rounds through it, this time at 300+ yards. Extremely satisfied customer.
I bought a .223 kit, and a Gen 3 PA10 kit. Both work very well. The .223 is incredibly accurate, while the .308 I can't get powder to work up a load, but did do 3/4" at 50 yards, which is not bad really for a semi auto .308. I think I could do better with a different powder. Shipping was quick. Customer support/replacement parts is non-existent, which really is bad given that they flooded the market with cheap AR's in .308 ($600+state taxes/transfer) with no list of compatible uppers, and their own uppers have been out of stock for over a year. Small parts are proprietary for the most part. All that said, it works fine, but I want to get another upper for a lighter barrel.
The 5.56 rifles are not subject to the parts problem.
The 5.56 rifles are not subject to the parts problem.
FL-NC
Member
I haven't ordered anything from them for about a year, but the things I have ordered in the past (ammo, parts, completed uppers, and a pistol) all were very reasonably priced, no issues with quality, and were delivered promptly.
BOTTOMLANDS
Member
I have ordered 2 complete guns and several parts from them over the years with no problems! My latest was last month. I ordered a complete lower and a complete 8.5" upper and received it about a week and half after the order. By mistake I ordered the 8.5" but wanted a 10.5". I almost settled for the 8.5" just for the hassle of returning it. But I decided to give them a call to just see what`d they said. I told him it was my mistake and if it was a problem to exchange the upper that I`d just keep it. The guy was understanding and nice about it all, even sent me a RMA with instructions while we were on the phone. I boxed it up and sent it back and received my 10.5" the next week.
I have no complaints at all with them!
I have no complaints at all with them!
BOTTOMLANDS
Member
MJ, I have the same .308 but I only shoot factory loads and get 3/4" groups at 100yds with it. I`d be willing to bet that with the right load you should get 3/4 or less. Let us know what you get when you find it!
I bought many ARs and other stuff from PSA, I used their warranty service twice, their customer service was hard to get hold of but once you get thru, they take care of you. The easiest way to get hold of PSA CS is thru forums that they are active at such as AR15.com that they have a sub-forum, have representatives monitor the forum and respond to forum IMs. Calling their CS was not that easy to get thru but that was many years ago.
I put one of their rifle kits together back around 2012 or 13. It was listed as a "blemished premium M4 rifle kit." It was blemished the finish had a small spot where it had scrubbed against something on the barrel. The barrel was made by FNH. I ordered a blemished lower from them also. After assembling the rifle the only thing I changed was I went back & put their EPT trigger kit in it. I did not use the lighter hammer spring but the kit made the trigger much smoother. It actually feels lighter than the stock one. I haven't had any problem with it other than some bozo (me) putting the hammer spring in backwards initially. Easily enough corrected.
no doubt it can, H335 is not a great powder for .308, especially with light 110, and 125 grain bullets. I figure 1.5 MOA with whatever I can throw together is great. It wasn't too long ago a hi-end bolt gun was in that range. I have no complaints on accuracy.
If you have the carbine setup, I highly recommend the B5 Bravo stock for it. Its a world of difference. The cheekweld makes it much steadier with all the front weight, and the slightly heavier nature of it actually makes the rifle feel lighter due to the better handling. Felt recoil was reduced from "starting to hurt" to "shoot all day and barely feel it the next". And its the right size scale to the AR10, so it doesn't look like some weird undersize bolt on like the original M4 stock.
To the OP, I forgot to mention, I have fired a decent amount of TulAmmo steel (308) through mine, and it runs good.
Hugger-4641
Member
I've ordered several items from them over the years and have been to their store in Greenville SC a couple times. Never been dissatisfied.
A couple of years ago they were selling M4 uppers and parts kits for $299 + $17 shipping, no sales tax in those days. Just because of the price I bought one. Desert tan furniture, which I thought was different and a nice change.
Anyhoo, I just built it a couple of months ago. I did put in a RRA NM trigger. I probably have about 100 rounds thru it so far and have cleaned it twice (Boretech Eliminator for reference), and the thing that I am impressed with is the minimal amount of copper fouling. Running my teslong into the bore shows minimal tool marks, practically on par with a Krieger that I own. Maybe my barrel was cut with a new reamer or something and I got lucky, but I am suitably impressed.
Anyhoo, I just built it a couple of months ago. I did put in a RRA NM trigger. I probably have about 100 rounds thru it so far and have cleaned it twice (Boretech Eliminator for reference), and the thing that I am impressed with is the minimal amount of copper fouling. Running my teslong into the bore shows minimal tool marks, practically on par with a Krieger that I own. Maybe my barrel was cut with a new reamer or something and I got lucky, but I am suitably impressed.
Ignition Override
Member
Slow shipping with a quality product is usually Highly-preferred to a company such as Century which produces AKMs (low-quality steel) known to have Premature wear in bolt lugs and often in trunnions.
>>>> Rob was satisfied with the results. He limits barrel temp. and checks headspace during his tests.
* One "hiccup" near the start with trigger group (an anomaly), which then never returned.
At 5:54 he shows us the bolt, bolt carrier (yes, after 5,000 rds.), likes the amount of visible internal wear, which he shows the viewers.
Last edited:
I have 2 uppers that I ordered from them and have one complete PSA rifle. Never had a single complaint. I read at times about slow delivery and frustration when people can't get in contact with live person to find out what is going on. I've never heard any complaints about the actual product.
I've gotten fast delivery every time. One upper was bought within the last 6 months when things are crazy everywhere and it was delivered promptly.
I've gotten fast delivery every time. One upper was bought within the last 6 months when things are crazy everywhere and it was delivered promptly.
BigSteve57
Member
Made many purchases from PSA with no problem.
d2wing
Member
- Joined
- Nov 10, 2008
- Messages
- 6,432
Wow, I must be the only guy that had trouble with them. I had an upper that was good so I ordered a LPK and a BCG. Both were out of spec and had to be replaced.. I called them a three or four times. I must have given up. Don't remember. That was a few years ago. Glad everyone else was good. Looks like odds are good that you they are ok. The kit I bought from Del-ton was better in everyway. Everything fit right, and looked great. Both were accurate. Edge there to Del-ton too but it had a 20 inch barrel as opposed to 16 PSA. Del-ton has kits on sale in stock for $450 right now. I ordered one this morning.
Last edited:
My son built up a 16" AR, M4 look alike, from one of their kits that has worked out nicely here on our farm. I also own and shot a Colt HBAR from the early 70's by way of comparison. Accuracy with the PSA is not as good as the HBAR but with iron sights and a good handload, it will hold an honest ~2" at 100 yds from an improvised rest.
Fit and finish are good with no problem with any of the controls.
The gun has a 1/7 twist that's the same as my Colt HBAR and handles 77 gr Sierra HPBTM bullets just fine. I've also tried it with my handloads using 50 gr Hornady and Speer HP's with similar accuracy. Green tip 62 gr military surplus bullets from Jeff Bartlett will group into less than 3" at 100...again that's with iron sights. Feeding and ejection are as they should be with no bobbles to date (~300 rounds through it over the past 3 months).
I've mounted a Romeo5 optic with a 2 MOA red dot that's co-located with the factory irons sights. Using the dot, I get similar accuracy as with the original iron sights.
All in all, I've very happy with it as a farm/truck gun and really quite surprised with the accuracy and reliability.
HTH's Rod
Fit and finish are good with no problem with any of the controls.
The gun has a 1/7 twist that's the same as my Colt HBAR and handles 77 gr Sierra HPBTM bullets just fine. I've also tried it with my handloads using 50 gr Hornady and Speer HP's with similar accuracy. Green tip 62 gr military surplus bullets from Jeff Bartlett will group into less than 3" at 100...again that's with iron sights. Feeding and ejection are as they should be with no bobbles to date (~300 rounds through it over the past 3 months).
I've mounted a Romeo5 optic with a 2 MOA red dot that's co-located with the factory irons sights. Using the dot, I get similar accuracy as with the original iron sights.
All in all, I've very happy with it as a farm/truck gun and really quite surprised with the accuracy and reliability.
HTH's Rod
greyling22
Member
I've had maybe 4 uppers and 2 lower kits from them. I forget the names of the levels, but I essentially bought the high, medium, and low quality from them. High and medium were good to go. The very cheapest LPK felt kind of crappy and cheap. All ran fine though and shot roughly MOA with my handloads. But I don't push my AR's very hard.
DustyGmt
Member
I've got nothing bad to say about them. There is a very long running article on another popular forum where Ron from Battlefield LV discusses them in terms of how well they are holding up on his full auto firing line. He purchased a bunch of 11.5" PSA uppers and they've been seeing heavy, heavy use. It's my understanding that some of his PSA uppers are past the 30k round mark and still chugging along.
They may let loose an out of spec part here and there, but generally they are good quality and affordable.
My office is close to one of their retail stores so I don’t have much experience with their shipping. The one item I did order was here within a week.
My first rifle from them had a little issue. The gas block was touching the hand rail just a bit. I took it in and they fixed it right in the store. Reliability wise it has run 100% with any factory ammo I’ve fed it and my hand loads. I have not tried steel case out of this one. Presently it shoots very well with one particular hand load and is unlikely to see much of anything else.
My next rifle had some more significant issues. It wouldn’t cycle and had a very hard time getting live rounds out after they were chambered. The charging handle would also rub the top of the receiver excessively in my opinion. They sent the rifle off to be fixed and it’s fine now. It’s still a little difficult to eject a live chambered round when going cold but much improved. As long as I have the gas block adjusted properly for the load it’s been 100% since it’s return. I like to adjust the block so my hand loads just barely function, so different loads might require adjustment.
My third has run flawlessly except one failure to feed that I’m blaming on the ammo. One round of about two boxes of steel cased ammo had the issue.
The good news is the first two have repeatable sub-1 inch groups at 100 yards with my tailored hand loads and each also has a factory load that is very close. They are different calibers so they can’t share.
The third is a dedicated iron sight rifle and I can’t shoot that good with iron sights yet, but my best hand load grouped about 1.4 inches at 100 yards. I need to confirm/repeat that load.
The bad news is none have terribly high round counts. The first is pushing 1000, and the other 2 are less than 200. These were acquired just last year, and with the ammo crunch just haven’t gotten as much use.
My first rifle from them had a little issue. The gas block was touching the hand rail just a bit. I took it in and they fixed it right in the store. Reliability wise it has run 100% with any factory ammo I’ve fed it and my hand loads. I have not tried steel case out of this one. Presently it shoots very well with one particular hand load and is unlikely to see much of anything else.
My next rifle had some more significant issues. It wouldn’t cycle and had a very hard time getting live rounds out after they were chambered. The charging handle would also rub the top of the receiver excessively in my opinion. They sent the rifle off to be fixed and it’s fine now. It’s still a little difficult to eject a live chambered round when going cold but much improved. As long as I have the gas block adjusted properly for the load it’s been 100% since it’s return. I like to adjust the block so my hand loads just barely function, so different loads might require adjustment.
My third has run flawlessly except one failure to feed that I’m blaming on the ammo. One round of about two boxes of steel cased ammo had the issue.
The good news is the first two have repeatable sub-1 inch groups at 100 yards with my tailored hand loads and each also has a factory load that is very close. They are different calibers so they can’t share.
The third is a dedicated iron sight rifle and I can’t shoot that good with iron sights yet, but my best hand load grouped about 1.4 inches at 100 yards. I need to confirm/repeat that load.
The bad news is none have terribly high round counts. The first is pushing 1000, and the other 2 are less than 200. These were acquired just last year, and with the ammo crunch just haven’t gotten as much use.
Offhand McFlan
Member
Guy at a LGS which I kind of like...his shop is not the worst/not the best...told me about 5 years ago to look there for stuff I want. I wasnt disappointed, really. I tend to use Midway first, Cheaper Than Dirt second...and there are several thirds including Palmetto. That's just me and the experience I've built. YMMV.
Maybe the reviews were based more on the product than the company? The market is very sensitive and erratic right now. Could be there's alot of disappointment everywhere.
Maybe the reviews were based more on the product than the company? The market is very sensitive and erratic right now. Could be there's alot of disappointment everywhere.
I haven’t found a factory load mine likes quite that well, but handloads are quite satisfactory. Federal gold medal match is right at 1” at 100 yards and Federal 150 grain blue box soft point is about 1.25”. So far mine also likes IMR 4064 and heavier bullets, 175 to 180 grain.
- Status
