AR Pistol??
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What els is there to do when you have a bunch of A2 grips and time on your hands. Don't know what I'm going to do with all of them now. Do you want one?
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Yeah, that was me also. "I'd never want one of those." But then I discovered that in the shotgun-only deer zone that I sometimes hunt in, AR pistols were legal. I absolutely hate slug guns (yes, have used them effectively in the past, but still hate them) so I acquired a 300 BLK pistol and I've discovered that it is actually a lot of fun - besides functional. The 110gr Barnes TAC-TX were made for this round and work great for deer as long as you keep your max distance in mind. However, even suppressed, I'll still wear ear pro with supersonic rounds...
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Dumb question: what is the gizmo screwed in behind the grip? Is it just to brace against or is it a mechanical part of the gun? I've never owned an AR so I don't know much (anything) about them.
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I've read this thread a bunch of times, I keep coming back to this mentality - because we hear it at gun counters and ranges and see it online all of the time, and it just doesn't make any sense at all...
If a guy gets charged and convicted of a bad shoot, it's most likely going down as a felony, so you'd lose whatever you used anyway. If you used a bone stock $400 AR-15 factory rifle and get convicted, it won't matter that the SBR was in the safe at the time of the shooting, you can't have it anymore.
If a guy is using a $400 AR for home defense and doesn't want to lose his extra $200, fine. But in the long run, I'd rather lose my firearm, the $200 sacrificed tax stamp, and whatever legal fees I spent instead of losing my life. I use an SBR for home defense, the tax stamp cost less than the barrel, less than the trigger, less than the handguard, less than the optic, less than the stock, less than the cerakote & hydrodip work.... See where I'm going with that? It's $200 extra, sure, but if I lose my current SBR, I'm losing a couple thousand dollars in the rifle, plus the $200 stamp. In reality, a lot of people lose their jobs, many lose their life savings defending themselves in civil court (or criminal)... What's $200 on that?
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The long tube at the tail of the rifle is the receiver extension, aka buffer tube. It contains the buffer spring (recoil spring) and buffer, and the bolt carrier retreats part way into this tube when the action cycles. So it's a housing for a mechanical part of the action.
If you're talking about the flat plate with the oblong holes right behind the grip, that is a sling mount. It's not mechanical, but it is functional.
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It's the pistol buffer tube assembly. With an AR rifle or carbine the buffer tube is part of the stock assembly.
It's the pistol buffer tube assembly. With an AR rifle or carbine the buffer tube is part of the stock assembly.
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GunnyUSMC
Like the look of the 7.5" upper and can readily see how much more maneuverable it would be within the confines of your vehicle.
Like the look of the 7.5" upper and can readily see how much more maneuverable it would be within the confines of your vehicle.
AR (or AK or similar designed) "pistols" really become pseudo SBRs without the stamp and waiting. Having a career in the military where you don't have much choice where you're assigned, NFA items make is far more difficult to almost impossible...many forget that careers and locations impact the decision to go NFA or not. Now that I have the opportunity, I will strongly consider going the SBR route...if anything these "pistols" really wet the appetite for the versatility of a SBR. My goal is to go .300BO with 7.5" barrel and get it suppressed. In my opinion, that's a pretty effective HD weapon. I prefer the suppression only to keep my hearing intact, but the size really adds a serious dimension to maneuverability and while ballistics are still solid for rifle calibers, the advantage is really a two hand platform for better accuracy at distances if outside the home.
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Go for the SB Tactical PDW brace. I never would have bothered with an SBR if these had been out 6 years ago. They're worth every penny.
You can thank me later.
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I’ve been looking at Strike Industries PDW stock. I may get one for my SBR.
I really didn’t like the blade arm brace after having a good look at one so I got one of the SB braces.
Armored farmer
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I bought a Sig brand brace for my AR pistol project.
Mine will twist on the buffer tube.
That's not cool.
MachIVshooter
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Put some electrician's tape on the tube to build up diameter and give it traction. Common trick to take the wiggle out of non-locking carbine stocks as well.
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GunnyUSMC, et al.
Can you comment on the reliability and ammo preferences of the 7 1/2" barrel?
I have read comments that 7 1/2" barrel gas systems are not as reliable as the 10 1/2".
I am building another carbine this weekend but the pistol version keeps pulling my interest.
Can you comment on the reliability and ammo preferences of the 7 1/2" barrel?
I have read comments that 7 1/2" barrel gas systems are not as reliable as the 10 1/2".
I am building another carbine this weekend but the pistol version keeps pulling my interest.
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My pistol is my favorite AR 15.
Buy the takedown pins. Buy the sigbrace (or similar). Buy the 10.5" bbl.
Holy smokes, it's a whole lot in a small pkg.
"Mine is all Anderson parts iirc. It runs all ammo. Never had a hiccup.
My friendly THR advice to you if you already have a nice rifle or carbine is to go to the trouble to build a braced pistol.
My pistol is my favorite AR 15.
Buy the takedown pins. Buy the sigbrace (or similar). Buy the 10.5" bbl.
Holy smokes, it's a whole lot in a small pkg.
"Mine is all Anderson parts iirc. It runs all ammo. Never had a hiccup.
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I found that the 10.5 was to long for what I wanted the pistol for. The 7.5 works great and is fun to shoot . I did put a Strike Industries Sale Comp on my pistol since I took that last photo.
I have fired 223 and 556 with no problems.
Shoot a 8.5" Blackout and a 10.5" 5.56 across a chronograph
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Now that I have a SBR, pistol and carbines in 556 adding a 300 Blk would not give me any type of advantage unless I wanted to go suppressed.
Plus I have a 277 Wolverine.
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Here are some pics with the new comp.
Have you actually checked the ballistics of a 5.56 from a 7.5" barrel, you're basically shooting a 22 magnum.
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But I don’t have to worry about changing ammo or mixing up mags.
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That's a completely boneheaded statement.
55 gr. M193 from a 7.5" barrel hits 2,350-2,400 FPS. 40 gr. .22 mag loads run about 1,650 FPS from a 7.5" tube. The respective muzzle energies are 930 ft lbs and 330 ft lbs. Even from a full 22" rifle barrel, the 40 gr. .22 mag loads run about 1,900 FPS for 435 FPE.
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