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jamesinalaska
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Good One TIMC
You got me laughing real good.
You got me laughing real good.
CHEVELLE427
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My dpms lr308 has so far been almost issue free .trigger is a bit rough .no issues with feeding so far
Shoots great with 168 grain bullets
The trigger feels crunchy I'll work on this or replace it
Shoots great with 168 grain bullets
The trigger feels crunchy I'll work on this or replace it
I`v owned a DPMS LR-308 for about a year. It weights 9.9 pounds with scope, 4 round mag with 4 rounds of ammo and a sling. I use it for deer hunting and I don`t mind a heavy rifle. It have been 100% reliable.
The trigger left much to be desired so I changed it to a JP trigger. Now it breaks clean at 3.5 pounds.
The trigger left much to be desired so I changed it to a JP trigger. Now it breaks clean at 3.5 pounds.
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There are so many makes and variations on the 7.62 mm Nato based AR-10 design, JY's statement can hardly be taken as the gospel. Perhaps his was unreliable or it could have been his ammunition or his magazines or any other number of factors that contributed to his disappointment in it.
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In other videos (like a dash cam recording from Edinburgh Risk and Security Management) we can see our hero in Iraq as a contractor when they take contact right. What's his reaction? Leave the rest of his team on the X while he breaks contact and hides in a ditch. Do a search for James "Runaway" Yeager sometime.
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The FNAR is a very nice rifle. I'm just wondering how long the barrel will hold up. Plus, if I'm going to go with an FNAR, why not just get a Springfield?
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The real tragedy for this type of firearm is the avenue taken that resulted in these types of rifles.
They are just too heavy to be optimal, and we've been taken down a rabbit hole that all leads to the same place, heavy rifles.
I know its re-hashing old gripes, but had the M1 Garand been accepted in its original caliber, .276 pedersen, we'd have a much better selection of designs available to us, lighter, capable and hi-capacity with lower recoil. The original M1 was smaller overall and had a 10 round capacity.
The .280 British, if accepted, would've allowed better full-auto abilities in their EM-2, FAL, CETME, etc.
Either way, we can't change history, so we're stuck with whats available.
I've owned M1 Garands, M1A, PTR-91 and an AR-10, they are heavy for an average dude to tote around all day long, and why should you when there are better options out there.
If I need to use a .308 it will be my .308 Remington 700. Otherwise, I own other rifles that are better suited for most of my needs.
For what I would usually grab a .308 for, now I have a 6.8 spc AR I'd rather huck around and its capable of doing most of what you want a .308 to do.
They are just too heavy to be optimal, and we've been taken down a rabbit hole that all leads to the same place, heavy rifles.
I know its re-hashing old gripes, but had the M1 Garand been accepted in its original caliber, .276 pedersen, we'd have a much better selection of designs available to us, lighter, capable and hi-capacity with lower recoil. The original M1 was smaller overall and had a 10 round capacity.
The .280 British, if accepted, would've allowed better full-auto abilities in their EM-2, FAL, CETME, etc.
Either way, we can't change history, so we're stuck with whats available.
I've owned M1 Garands, M1A, PTR-91 and an AR-10, they are heavy for an average dude to tote around all day long, and why should you when there are better options out there.
If I need to use a .308 it will be my .308 Remington 700. Otherwise, I own other rifles that are better suited for most of my needs.
For what I would usually grab a .308 for, now I have a 6.8 spc AR I'd rather huck around and its capable of doing most of what you want a .308 to do.
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i looked at the m1s, my problem was as same with the ar10, too expensive, cheapest m1 i saw was 1300+
i'd imagine this barrel would last quite a while, i've seen some internet talk about the fnar's barrel lifetime being a mere 5-10k rounds, but never anything to substantiate it.
put simply i went with the fnar because it filled the need for a tacticool 308 with the fat magazine, decked in accessories for less than what i would have paid for a base ar10/m1 lol. also, being an FN product, i just cant see it being bad quality or deficient.
Lord Teapot
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that's true, my ar15 is my 'combat' rifle, for exactly that reason; lighter/lighter ammo/similar utility.
OilyPablo
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To the core of it this is why I choose 6.8SPCII.
Robert said:
Not only will it be just as reliable, it will be gentler on brass and it'll most likely be way more accurate!! Up until fairly recently I had an M1A, FAL and AR308. Thankfully I sold two of them and am left with just the AR308 in the form of a POF P308 which is a better rifle than the other two in every way possible. I have no intention of reinvesting in M1As or FALs.
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I picked up a CMMG CBR in 7.62 NATO a couple weeks ago and finally got it to the range. Traded a KelTec RFB for it mostly because the bullpup form factor was one I liked more in theory than in practice. Anyway, the CMMG rifle appears well made and has most of the upgrades I'd want in an AR to start with. After break in at the range yesterday I managed consistent 1.5" groups at 100 yards with match ammo. I was happy considering it was the first time shooting it. I'll need to go to a different range next week for ammo dumps so really don't know how reliably it will semi-auto feed yet.
Don't know that I'd pay MSRP for one (I didn't), but IMO it's worth every penny I paid for it.
Don't know that I'd pay MSRP for one (I didn't), but IMO it's worth every penny I paid for it.
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I have a DPMS GII Recon. It's been 100% for me. It's been a fun gun to shoot.
Two folks brought up the same thing in this thread, and why I also went with a 6.8.
It takes out most anything in the US, out to a little more than 300 yards.
Most ARs in 308's are heavy. IMHO, maybe not the best choice for an all day hunt. It will do the job, but .....
If you sit in a stand, and prop it on a board to take a shot, thats fine.
But if you hump all day (or night), the extra 2-4 lbs DOES wear on you.
I was ready to buy a 716...... I kept picking it up, and putting it down.
The extra weight wasnt something I wanted.
It takes out most anything in the US, out to a little more than 300 yards.
Most ARs in 308's are heavy. IMHO, maybe not the best choice for an all day hunt. It will do the job, but .....
If you sit in a stand, and prop it on a board to take a shot, thats fine.
But if you hump all day (or night), the extra 2-4 lbs DOES wear on you.
I was ready to buy a 716...... I kept picking it up, and putting it down.
The extra weight wasnt something I wanted.
Why is it that every time one of these threads pop up we seem to get fixated on weight? While I sure there is a lot of stalk hunting I would think most is done form a stand of some kind but very few are probably carrying their rifle all day long. You never know but also pretty sure none of us will ever need to carry one all day in battle walking around with the rifle and several hundred rounds of ammo. When at the range I usually park the truck about 10 yards or less from the bench and while its tough I usually make it that far.
The weight of my AR-10 has never been an issue or me or anyone I know that owns one. I also have bolt action rifles in .308, AR's in 6.5 Grendel, .223, .50 Beowulf and of course .308. While I do hunt with all of them at one time or another the AR-10 in .308 is my favorite pig rifle and is not problem carrying from the truck to the stand, as far as the OP, he wasn't asking about weight, the question was about reliability.
My AR-10 has always been 100% reliable!
The weight of my AR-10 has never been an issue or me or anyone I know that owns one. I also have bolt action rifles in .308, AR's in 6.5 Grendel, .223, .50 Beowulf and of course .308. While I do hunt with all of them at one time or another the AR-10 in .308 is my favorite pig rifle and is not problem carrying from the truck to the stand, as far as the OP, he wasn't asking about weight, the question was about reliability.
My AR-10 has always been 100% reliable!
Not everyone subscribes to the Couch Potato School of Shooting and Hunting. Some of us actually carry our rifles afield, rather than simply riding our V8 powered couch to where we will hunt. I prefer to keep my hunting rifles as light as practical
Agreed. I mentioned this in a post above.....As much as a Sig fan as I am, and having complete confidence in their quality, at the end of the day the 716 is just too heavy for me.
At 9.3 lbs before optic or other accessories, I tend to leave it at home. A friend of mine who has enough property to shoot his onsite loves it. Just too heavy to lug around for me.
Cal-gun Fan
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Agreed. I hunt in the mountains. Lots of elevation changes, steep terrain. It's what I like-feels natural. Siting in a tree stand or hunting from your ruck..why bother? My personal opinion. But that's not what this threads about. Fact is, most AR-10s are way heavier than they need to be-largely due to billet, oversized receivers, thick barrels, and ungainly rail systems.
Lycidas Janwor
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I have a LaRue .308, fantastic rifle, very accurate and reliable.
I think I said while some do like to stalk hunt most do not but that was not the point I was making. I was just Wondering why people always bring up the weight when the OP's question was AR-10 reliability. I don't think one has much to do with the other.
OilyPablo
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Anyone shot a 6 pound .308? There is some advantage to mass and a semi auto action.
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The weight problem in a lot of AR 10's is the loaded weight. As an example, Wilson Combat makes a "lightweight" AR 10. It is 7.65 lbs unloaded. Put a full magazine in it and it goes to just over 9lbs.
Of course, if you put less ammunition in it the gun will weigh less - but, you have to be careful in quoting weights as ammunition increases the weight significantly.
I have a Les Baer .308 that weighed just over 9 lbs out of the box. Put a US Optics 3.5-25x 50mm scope, and load it - right at 13 lbs.
Not something you'd want to carry around all day, but for things like precision tactical rifle competitions where you're only carrying it a short distance for about 2 hours it works fine.
The rifle makes 600 yard shots repeatable, and 800-1,000 yards doable - where crosswind calculations and adjustments become the challenge as the rifle easily provides the accuracy required for those kind of distances.
Of course, if you put less ammunition in it the gun will weigh less - but, you have to be careful in quoting weights as ammunition increases the weight significantly.
I have a Les Baer .308 that weighed just over 9 lbs out of the box. Put a US Optics 3.5-25x 50mm scope, and load it - right at 13 lbs.
Not something you'd want to carry around all day, but for things like precision tactical rifle competitions where you're only carrying it a short distance for about 2 hours it works fine.
The rifle makes 600 yard shots repeatable, and 800-1,000 yards doable - where crosswind calculations and adjustments become the challenge as the rifle easily provides the accuracy required for those kind of distances.
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