Ar15 trigger upgrade, geissele or what?

[z7]

i am going to upgrade my trigger in my Daniel defense v11. I want a new trigger, and mine is under recall so now is a good time.

PSA has a sale for the 4th and I can for a geissele g2s for $129.
SSA-E for $179

I want it to be a good trigger, reliable, safe and rugged for hunting and home defense.

Can I do better?

 

[farmerboy78]

The geiselle super match or rock river

 

[LUCKYDAWG13]

screw RRA I just put this in and cant be happier http://www.larue.com/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-trigger

 

[v35]

Can I do better?

Slightly:

http://www.dpmsinc.com/Geissele-2-Stage-G2S-Trigger_p_2679.html

$109 + $10 shipping + tax (maybe).

No complaints.

 

[rabid wombat]

http://www.larue.com/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-trigger

LaRue gets good write ups - two tiered pricing - now, or can wait.

Gieselle is great.

For inexpensive, go ALG. Made by Gieselle, but to a refined mil spec. Great triggers for the money.

https://algdefense.com/lower-parts.html?cat=77

I have: Gieselle, RRA NM, LaRue, and ALG ACT...

 

[Chuck R.]

I've got a couple Geissele SSA-Es, fantastic triggers, I'll end up putting another one in the build I'm working on now. $179 is a fantastic price.

Chuck

 

[Llama Bob]

Depends on whether you want a fast lock time trigger or not. The SSA-E is sort of a medium lock speed trigger. The "hi-speed" line is their fast lock time version. The Elftmann 3-gun is also good in that respect, but with a single stage design. Neither is cheap.

For slower lock time triggers, the Larue is cheap and good.

 

[rskent]

Geissele High Speed. Its only money.
You have a great rifle. You may as well have a great trigger. I have had one in my match gun for quite a while now, 2011. Sweet trigger, totally reliable. My old trigger would need adjusting every year or so. I haven’t needed to adjust the weights on the High Speed yet. Earlier this year I put one in my 22LR AR. Sweet trigger, it also cut down on the 22LR duds. Even covered in 22LR crap, it smacks um pretty good.

 

[z7]

Awesome, thanks for the comments, I will look into the larue and figure out if I want to spend the extra $ on the ssae

 

[Zerodefect]

Larue. The extra for the G ain't worth it.

 

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Money well spent Larue's triggers are Awesome

 

[z7]

Larue. The extra for the G ain't worth it.

The geissele is cheaper, larue $129, geissele $109 (g2s)

 

[LUCKYDAWG13]

no it's not when you check out it cost $20 to ship

 

[VinnAY]

I like the RRA NM trigger with a set of liter springs

 

[Rudedog]

I like the Geissele, smooth and predictable.

 

[Zerodefect]

The geissele is cheaper, larue $129, geissele $109 (g2s)

I'll have to make an effort to try those. All the G's I've tried were uber expensive.

 

[z7]

I am going to order the g2s from Dpms.

It is $119 after shipping, about equal price when it is al said to the larue,

 

[Walkalong]

The geissele is cheaper, larue $129, geissele $109 (g2s)

It's a wash, but the Geissele is the better trigger IMHO. I have both. I think you'll be happy with it.

 

[LiveLife]

I want it to be a good trigger, reliable, safe and rugged for hunting and home defense.

From what I gathered, Geissele 3.5-4.5 lb triggers are better for faster more precise match shooting but ALG (made by Geissele) 5.5 lb triggers are better suited for duty/home defense. For hunting, I guess it depends on the shooter but ALG triggers should be reliable, safe and rugged.

And ALG ACT is QMS with corrosion resistant and smoother plating of nickel boron and nickel teflon.

BTW, ALG is running 20% off triggers 4th of July sale (Free shipping on all orders) - https://algdefense.com/independence-day

Geissele Automatics video on Geissele and ALG triggers (Summary at 25:00 minute mark - Very eye opening)

 

[RussellC]

Slightly:

http://www.dpmsinc.com/Geissele-2-Stage-G2S-Trigger_p_2679.html

$109 + $10 shipping + tax (maybe).

No complaints.

I have 2 from them, but by the time you get about 10 tax and about 10 shipping, mine were 129ish

Still a bargain.

Russellc

 

[RussellC]

From what I gathered, Geissele 3.5-4.5 lb triggers are better for faster more precise match shooting but ALG (made by Geissele) 5.5 lb triggers are better suited for duty/home defense. For hunting, I guess it depends on the shooter but ALG triggers should be reliable, safe and rugged.

And ALG ACT is QMS with corrosion resistant and smoother plating of nickel boron and nickel teflon.

BTW, ALG is running 20% off triggers 4th of July sale (Free shipping on all orders) - https://algdefense.com/independence-day

Geissele Automatics video on Geissele and ALG triggers (Summary at 25:00 minute mark - Very eye opening)

I've used these as well, but I much prefer the G2S. YMMV

Russellc

 

[RussellC]

I am going to order the g2s from Dpms.

It is $119 after shipping, about equal price when it is al said to the larue,

They hit me for another 10 in tax. Dont know what's up with that, I live in MO, I believe they were Alabama?

Russellc

 

[LiveLife]

I've used these [ALG] as well, but I much prefer the G2S.

Isn't that like comparing apples to oranges?

I was responding to OP's criteria of "reliable, safe and rugged for hunting and home defense" which ALG triggers should more than meet.

Yes, I would also lean towards Giessele G2S for $110 + $10 shipping over ALG ACT for $55 but my shooting is more target oriented.

 

[RussellC]

Agreed, but for 50 bucks, it beats the typical mil spec dreck. No, it does not compare to the G2S, or any of their better triggers. I have every intention of getting one of their better triggers, so impressed with their basic 2 stage. Its 2 stage nature is more safe in my view than a 2.5 single stage. By YMMV I mean compared to some of the other more expensive triggers mentioned.

Russellc

 

[Tirod]

Factory government trigger is good enough for hunting and self defense. What some aftermarket makers install might not come up to that standard.

A "good" trigger is commonly believed to be what people use for long distance position shooting, and the first thing they think is needed is a light pull. Second is a very short pull. Both are not recommended for a tactical or field trigger, they are exactly the opposite of what is safe traveling over rough ground, or under duress. The military world wide has specified a 6 pound trigger for over one hundred years because of it, and a little creep isn't a trigger killer when you are hunting or being opposed by an intruder. It's NOT a question of taking up slack while the sights slowing work back and forth past the target - things are usually a lot closer and it's sight on target and squeeze it off within the second.

Completely different kind of shooting, but in the market and American experience, long distance target triggers dominate because of oneupmanship. We've had plenty of posters over the years explain how their hunting and carry guns are tuned to light target trigger weights with almost no travel - and yet when the Remington trigger debacle is discussed, no one is willing to explain in detail what trigger weight and travel they adjusted their's to. It's always "Blame Remington."

Be careful what you ask for. Nothing wrong with getting a crisp, short pull but a field or tactical use gun should have a 6 - six - pound trigger with some creep to stack so you know you are pulling it. It's not position target shooting, and the few extra ounces aren't going to make any effective difference putting a bullet in the kill zone.

A 9 ring hit vs 8 ring hit makes no difference stopping an intruder at 21 feet. You want a hit, not a light trigger subject to going off long before you get the sights on them.