Are Bullpups the future?

[lysanderxiii]

Six years ago, they signed the contract in September 2016 with deliveries starting in May 2017.

 

[halfmoonclip]

Captain Mac, I'd forgotten that the French piece was called the trumpet. That's funny, thanks!
JMorris, okay, explain that picture? I don't recognize the principals, nor the gun. Thanks.
As regards muzzle noise with a bullpup, an AR vents it's bolt gas near the shooter's ear, and the guy to my left on the rifle range installed a permanent ringing in my left ear.
With plugs, I don't hear much difference in the platforms.
The original AUGs could swap ejection sides with a left handed bolt, and by swapping a cover in the stock. The STANAG/NATO mag version is more complicated to swap sides.
Moon

 

[Hooda Thunkit]

an AR vents it's bolt gas near the shooter's ear, and the guy to my left on the rifle range installed a permanent ringing in my left ear.

The one and only time I have ever shot at an indoor range, the jerk next to me had a short barreled AR15-style rifle. With a muzzle brake (yes, a brake, not a break). I had plugs and muffs on, and still had to leave.

A dozen open lanes, he sets up next to me on my left, and starts showering me with brass along with running me off with muzzle blast.

 

[chicharrones]

The one and only time I have ever shot at an indoor range, the jerk next to me had a short barreled AR15-style rifle. With a muzzle brake (yes, a brake, not a break). I had plugs and muffs on, and still had to leave.

A dozen open lanes, he sets up next to me on my left, and starts showering me with brass along with running me off with muzzle blast.

Similar happened to me at an indoor range a couple years ago. Except the guy next to me was shooting a 16” barreled AR10. I was trying to retort with my 2.5” barrel .357 mag, but lost that battle.

The whole range was full with scores of folks waiting for their turns in the lanes. It was a weekend and I went with a neighbor. Which is why I don’t like to shoot on weekends.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Until bullpups come with AR-like triggers, I don't see one being in my future other than as a novelty.

 

[CapnMac]

Captain Mac, I'd forgotten that the French piece was called the trumpet. That's funny, thanks!

May have been Légion étrangère (French Foreign Legion) that started the moniker "le clarion" as the Legion still uses bugle calls for their assemblies, and the long top handle on the FAMAS certainly resembles their bugle. (And, is sometimes played inverted from the 'standard' position.)


FAMAS handles very nicely, or at least if did for the week I got to drive one over a range training exercises. Not the lightest thing, but handy. Utterly unsuited for use by a Drill Team for "pretty" manual of arms--but, that was never the point of the thing.

Had they made more of the civilian-legit semi-autos, I'd look at one pretty closely (if setup for STANAG mags).

 

[Goosey]

Apparently Ukrainian special forces like this bullpup, or at least are widely seen using it.

That is the opposite of what has been seen in some other armies, such as the British Army using a bullpup rifle, but their special operations using AR-platform carbines. It's also interesting because it's a conversion, which are usually held in lower regard.

"Malyuk" or Vulcan, which is a 5.45mm bullpup AK with some improvements, non-reciprocating charging handle, adjustable stock, drop-free magazines, etc.

 

[Tallinar]

For me, there’s just something disconcerting about having the action right under my face. Not really appealing. Of course, someone could say that having it a few inches in front of your eyes isn’t a whole lot better, and I’d have no good rebuttal.

In any event, I hope bullpups aren’t the future because they are ugly.

 

[caribou]

Either model of an FG-42 would be viable today.

 

[marksman13]

Somebody’s future? Sure. Mine? Nope.

 

[Necessary_Nutrient]

So the consensus seems to be that they aren’t the future, the past or really anything but a niche for the different-for-the-sake-of-it crowd.

 

[Varminterror]

So the consensus seems to be that they aren’t the future, the past or really anything but a niche for the different-for-the-sake-of-it crowd.

Yup. Which is why we just don’t see broad adoption of them, and haven’t for generations.

 

[C-grunt]

Life every design there are pros and cons. The longer barrel vs overall length os obviously the main pro.

On the military side the main cons are the ergonomics. Mostly such things as reloading in the prone or shooting from the off side shoulder. This are the main reasons why bullpups ate not being adopted en mass by militaries around the world.