So, I walk into this gun shop, and start asking a few questions. Not too long after the dealer starts pushing a glock on me. I have never been fond of them due to grip and my tiny hands. He showed me the sf and single stack and they felt much much better in hand. I then comment on a certain other brand that I have been looking into and he, as nice as possible, says they are garbage compared to the glock. Such as the glock polymer is superior to the others and that the others will crack after so many rounds, or it was a crack in the slide. Now I understand that this dealer could just be really into the kool-aid, but is he adding a little something to that kool-aid as well? This guy was real nice and not trying to push the more expensive glocks i.e. the gen 4, but is he blowing smoke up my skirt or are these glocks really all they are cracked up to be?
Are Glocks really all that?
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...and a bag of chips.
REAPER4206969
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Yes. <--That's a period.
murfdog
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NO!I like H&Ks they fit my hand better glocks are good guns but IMHO noy in the same league as H&K.
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dawico
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For the price they can't be beat. For twice the money they are tough to beat.
Impureclient
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Half the posts(at all times) in the Autoloader are Glock posts...does that answer your question? Speaking of which.....I am dumbfounded as to why there isn't a Glock subforum in here.
A G19 was the first gun I ever shot and I was out shooting the other folks in the rest of the stalls when I went for the first time. Maybe beginners luck but it was easy to pick up and look like a pro.
I was shooting a smiley face on the paper targets head with it. I have moved onto more accurate(and better looking) guns like CZ though. Another nice single stack thin gun would be any Kahr also.
A G19 was the first gun I ever shot and I was out shooting the other folks in the rest of the stalls when I went for the first time. Maybe beginners luck but it was easy to pick up and look like a pro.
I was shooting a smiley face on the paper targets head with it. I have moved onto more accurate(and better looking) guns like CZ though. Another nice single stack thin gun would be any Kahr also.
I carried a G26 for about a year, decided it was time to get another brand because of the grip and trigger, traded it off for a CZ PO1 and couldn't be happier, much better handgun for me. I then bought a G17 but haven't shot it enough so the jury is still out on that one. I now carry a Springfield Ultra Compact in 45ACP, still better than the G26
mljdeckard
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They will do anything a beginner needs them to do, or an advanced shooter in extreme conditions needs them to do. I think our soldiers should be issued Glocks.
That being said, I think they fit most needs of most shooters, this doesn't mean they are a match for YOU. If you don't like the grip, it's ok, not everyone does. What were you looking at that he was steering you away from?
That being said, I think they fit most needs of most shooters, this doesn't mean they are a match for YOU. If you don't like the grip, it's ok, not everyone does. What were you looking at that he was steering you away from?
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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Yes they are.
Now go buy one if it feels right for you.
Now go buy one if it feels right for you.
beeenbag
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W.E.G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring on the big fat red man!
Yes Glock pistols shoot faster, straighter, and have more lethal force. They will not break, even at the deepest depths of the ocean will still fire all 19 rounds out of the flush fitting mags in the subcompacts. They are so easy to conceal too!! I carry my Glock 34 when I am on stage ( I am a male exotic dancer) and no one has ever said a word about seeing it.
No but really...
Glocks are great made combat pistols that do exactly what they were made to do. There are alot of pistol makers that also do this, I just prefer a Glock. You need to atleast hold a few other makes and models, then come to YOUR conclusion, not mine or your local gun dealers but yours. Go with what feels good to your hands.
Bring on the big fat red man!
Yes Glock pistols shoot faster, straighter, and have more lethal force. They will not break, even at the deepest depths of the ocean will still fire all 19 rounds out of the flush fitting mags in the subcompacts. They are so easy to conceal too!! I carry my Glock 34 when I am on stage ( I am a male exotic dancer) and no one has ever said a word about seeing it.
No but really...
Glocks are great made combat pistols that do exactly what they were made to do. There are alot of pistol makers that also do this, I just prefer a Glock. You need to atleast hold a few other makes and models, then come to YOUR conclusion, not mine or your local gun dealers but yours. Go with what feels good to your hands.
Nushif
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I don't think the glock, after owning one, is "all that."
What they are, however is the gun every gun will at some point be measured against. They're the standard baseline.
So, would any collection be complete without a Glock 19 or 17? I don't think so. Will those be the cream of the crop, necessarily? Nope. Will they be the bottom of the barrel? not unless it's a very, very expensive collection.
What they are, however is the gun every gun will at some point be measured against. They're the standard baseline.
So, would any collection be complete without a Glock 19 or 17? I don't think so. Will those be the cream of the crop, necessarily? Nope. Will they be the bottom of the barrel? not unless it's a very, very expensive collection.
I think they're great.
Spare parts easily available for the foreseeable future.
Every single part, pin, screw, is readily available for purchase and easily installed, yourself, with just a stick and 3 minutes of time.
Slide and barrel are easy to clean and difficult to scratch.
All other metal parts are (cheap, stamped, easily replaced) nickle plated steel, requiring barely any lubrication. This is a gun you can completely detail strip and reassemble without getting any oil on your hands.
Reassembly just as easy. No wiping and oiling each part on reassembly. Reassemble dry, put a dab of oil on the trigger bar/connector interface, slide rails, and barrel, and you're done.
Can detail strip and reassemble with one hand and a punch.
And they just plain work. Light, good handling, accurate, consistent, reliable, durable, easy to maintain, cheap mags. What's not to like?
Glocks are like Bic lighters. You can buy something fancier, but you can't buy anything that gets the job done any better.
Spare parts easily available for the foreseeable future.
Every single part, pin, screw, is readily available for purchase and easily installed, yourself, with just a stick and 3 minutes of time.
Slide and barrel are easy to clean and difficult to scratch.
All other metal parts are (cheap, stamped, easily replaced) nickle plated steel, requiring barely any lubrication. This is a gun you can completely detail strip and reassemble without getting any oil on your hands.
Reassembly just as easy. No wiping and oiling each part on reassembly. Reassemble dry, put a dab of oil on the trigger bar/connector interface, slide rails, and barrel, and you're done.
Can detail strip and reassemble with one hand and a punch.
And they just plain work. Light, good handling, accurate, consistent, reliable, durable, easy to maintain, cheap mags. What's not to like?
Glocks are like Bic lighters. You can buy something fancier, but you can't buy anything that gets the job done any better.
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They are not god's gift to handgun shooters. On the upside they are reasonably affordable, tough as nails, reasonably accurate, and very reliable because they are simple. On the downside they are mostly big, certainly ugly as sin, and way over-hyped.
I like them and own 3 but understand the many reasons others do not.
All the points I mentioned apply to 1911s too btw. Maybe not the simplicity one.
I like them and own 3 but understand the many reasons others do not.
All the points I mentioned apply to 1911s too btw. Maybe not the simplicity one.
12131
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Yes, they are, for those of us who like them.
Hanzo581
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I am sure Glocks are great pistols, I just never found one that felt right in my hand. Haven't tried Gen 4 yet, maybe the new interchangeable backstraps would help.
Fieldstone
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We have this thing we call a Shoot Out. Everybody brings their weapons, lay them all on the table, and you can shoot whatever you want. Its fun at the least, and its nice to shoot some other gear. All these guys have their favorite brand, some Ruger, some HK, some Para and so on. Without exception, they all pulled out a Glock or two despite their brand favorite. And without exception they all agreed it was the easiest gun to work on and there was zero problems in all conditions. One guy will not make Glock his go to brand only because his brother loves them. Deep down inside everybody knows that Glock has a firm name and dependibility.
Creature
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Glock makes a very reliable and relatively inexpensive gun.
that said, if you tell us the "certain other brand" you had in mind that your dealer said was garbage, we'll tell you if he's a shyster or not.
that said, if you tell us the "certain other brand" you had in mind that your dealer said was garbage, we'll tell you if he's a shyster or not.
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After you get over the idea that when you walk up to the lake, the waters will part if you're carrying a Glock, you can get realistic.
I've never found a Glock that fit my hand, and working in a gun store, I've got as many used Glocks as any other gun... so they aren't the panacea that the cultists dream them to be. They're just another brand of gun.
I have customers that come in who won't have anything else, and customers that won't have one as a gift... so there's no "one answer" to this question. I also have Kimber buyers who don't think anybody else makes 1911's... and they're just as wrong as the Glockies...
I've got 52 different pistols of my own, and none of them are Glocks or Kimbers... and it's not because of cost... I've got some expensive guns, and some cheap ones. I've just never found either one of those brands to be a value for me, and I've never found one that fit my hand and that I couldn't put down.
There are good guns of almost any brand out there, and junk by some of the most expensive manufacturers... you have to field test a lot of guns to figure out when you're getting the sales hype, and when you're getting quality products. I don't gage my opinions based on how much guns cost or how popular they are... I look at the manufacturing quality, how they "run", how tight the guns are when they're used some, and a lot of other "little" things that are clues to what kind of quality is in the firearm.
You can spend a thousand bucks on a new Springfield, or a hundred on a Hi Point... and they will both make the same bullet go bang... One, will have much better manufacturing features, and the other one will look like a boat anchor... but there's still a market for both of them. How you fit in, and where you fit into the "extremes" of the price selections will determine what your gun collection looks like.
I've got several of the new polymer guns, and a lot of the old steel guns... and how they shoot individually determines a lot of what I think of them. Being a Glock doesn't necessarily make a gun "the one for you"... it has to fit your hand, function correctly, and be what you consider a value for the money.
For "Glockies", there's no other gun... for me, they need to make one that fits my hand to have a chance, and in a caliber that I'd want to use for self defense.
WT
I've never found a Glock that fit my hand, and working in a gun store, I've got as many used Glocks as any other gun... so they aren't the panacea that the cultists dream them to be. They're just another brand of gun.
I have customers that come in who won't have anything else, and customers that won't have one as a gift... so there's no "one answer" to this question. I also have Kimber buyers who don't think anybody else makes 1911's... and they're just as wrong as the Glockies...
I've got 52 different pistols of my own, and none of them are Glocks or Kimbers... and it's not because of cost... I've got some expensive guns, and some cheap ones. I've just never found either one of those brands to be a value for me, and I've never found one that fit my hand and that I couldn't put down.
There are good guns of almost any brand out there, and junk by some of the most expensive manufacturers... you have to field test a lot of guns to figure out when you're getting the sales hype, and when you're getting quality products. I don't gage my opinions based on how much guns cost or how popular they are... I look at the manufacturing quality, how they "run", how tight the guns are when they're used some, and a lot of other "little" things that are clues to what kind of quality is in the firearm.
You can spend a thousand bucks on a new Springfield, or a hundred on a Hi Point... and they will both make the same bullet go bang... One, will have much better manufacturing features, and the other one will look like a boat anchor... but there's still a market for both of them. How you fit in, and where you fit into the "extremes" of the price selections will determine what your gun collection looks like.
I've got several of the new polymer guns, and a lot of the old steel guns... and how they shoot individually determines a lot of what I think of them. Being a Glock doesn't necessarily make a gun "the one for you"... it has to fit your hand, function correctly, and be what you consider a value for the money.
For "Glockies", there's no other gun... for me, they need to make one that fits my hand to have a chance, and in a caliber that I'd want to use for self defense.
WT
Sounds like he was attempting to get you to purchase a pistol that will almost certainly be reliable out of the box, is priced reasonable compared to the competition, has a proven track record, easy to find holsters and spare magazines for...Glock.
He was right, Glock is superior.
He tried to steer you in the right direction, maybe you should go back there when ready to buy.
He was right, Glock is superior.
He tried to steer you in the right direction, maybe you should go back there when ready to buy.
gwnorth
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I've shot several Glock models many of times, but they've never appealed to me enough to actually buy or own one. They just hold no great appeal to me. And, since there are so many excellent choices available in hand guns it's not a big deal for those of us who just are not turned on to Glocks.
If you like them and they work for you, get one. But don't buy any gun just because of advertising, hype or what the salesman is pushing.
If you like them and they work for you, get one. But don't buy any gun just because of advertising, hype or what the salesman is pushing.
Caliper_Mi
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Very true, you have to be carrying a 1911 for that to happen!
What your guy was implying that no other pistol would be durable or worth your money is pure hogwash, so don't worry about that. Many (probably most) other brands of pistol are just as durable as Glocks. Find yourself a range that offers gun rentals. Rent a Glock, then rent other types of pistol and decide for yourself. See if you like the feel while shooting, the grip, trigger, accuracy, etc. Does it point naturally? Are you comfortable with Glocks safety system? (an issue for many non-Glockophiles) Decide for yourself. Nothing wrong with liking Glocks, but it is silly to close your eyes to all other brands because there are lots of other nice pistols out there.
Quack
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Nope, pure marketing.
WVleo
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Had they a single stack 9mm CCW model I would have looked at Glock, but I was replacing a CZ RAMI in 9mm which was wide for IWB ( my prefered carry mode ) so the Glock 26 was not even considered. Ended up with a PM9. Glock owners seem to like them, so they must be doing something right. Might someday trade My Colt Lawman 2" if the right G19 comes along at a local BIGBOYTOY store.......WVleo
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