OK. So maybe they're a little chunky and the trigger isn't the greatest but I've had a P85 for over 15 years and never had a bit of trouble with it. It's been 100% reliable and shoots plenty accurate. In fact I'm considering picking up a new P95 to be a companion for it. After all, the price is considerably less than a S&W, Glock, or XD. Bill Ruger's stupid politics aside what else is the problem here?