Are Ruger Pistols Underrated?

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I like mine.

I have a 22/45 (stainless barrel), which is IMO as good as any gun in the world (ever) for getting a new shooter (including "test shooter" -- that is, a person who I have bribed or cajoled into the range on the basis that it will be as non-scary as possilbe) into safe, fun, range plinking.*

Since this was the first gun I ever bought, it also has some sentimental value. Not that I don't go through a similar cycle of curiosity, interest, desire, anticipation and then (hopefully!) happiness with the purchase of each gun of the few I've got now, I think everyone who wasn't raised with guns always to hand goes through a lot of mind-wrestling over whether to get a gun, and then what kind. A .22 pistol with a grip angle I like and hard-to-break industrial design is what I settled on. I liked the bull barrel and the reputation for accuracy, too, but in reality I think reasons like that are mostly tacked on to the mostly visceral connection to a particular gun. The 22/45 I think deserves a place in the Museum of Modern Art at least as much as does the Movado watch or an Apple computer, both of which are represented.

I also have a P345, stainless slide, and find it a very solid, accurate gun. I will not say it is (yet) 100pct reliable, because (thanks to schedule and budget) I probably have less than 500 rounds through it at this point. Therefore, the handful of FTFs I've had I suspect are part of its (ultra-slow) break-in period. I am not saying it has been anything like troublesome, though -- just the opposite. The grips fit my smallish hands well, and the sights are to my taste. It is, like Ruger products tend to be, solid and chunky to a fault. I am pretty sure I could run it over a few times and to do nothing but hose it off.

When I bought the 22/45, I was not clued in to gun politics at all, so Bill Ruger's political machinations or sympathies had no effect on me. By the time I bought the P345, I'd become aware of them, been disappointed, but was also not all that affected. The P345 is a reasonable-capacity, good quality and fairly slim pistol which I didn't think matched any perception of Ruger (the company) as demoting or discounting the right to self-defense weapons. (And note, when I say "reasonable-capacity," I don't mean in some abstract sense requiring the approval of the Congressional Committee on Whether Things Are Reasonable; I mean that 8+1 suited me fine.)

I've now fired the SR9 for an hour at the range, and other than the incredible effort that loading its mags took (just getting in 6 rounds was a mighty struggle, never mind 17), I was very impressed. If a 17-round mag would bother Bill Ruger, then I hope he's not very good at haunting the office nowadays. The politics of Ruger the company at least (if you could magically speak to the company as if it were a person and ask the question) don't seem to favor mags limited to California or Massachusetts levels. Maybe that's just the market speaking -- but well, that's the market speaking, and Ruger listening, and the happy upshot is fine with me.

Cheers,

timothy


* Yes, I know "range plinking" may sound like either a redundancy (if, like me, you consider mild, informal target shooting just what the gun range is perfect for) or an oxymoron, on the basis that "if you have to leave your porch, it ain't plinkin!'" That is an old-time country expression which I just made up. For some reason, though, that sentiment reminds me of my dad's favorite saying, "You can't *buy* a decent watermelon!"

** (Thanks to the mentioned budget and time constraints, too much of my "gun time" is (and will be for a little while yet) vicarious, through things like THR ;))
 
Ergonomics prevent me from buying a P-series.
I understand what you're saying. It's unfortunate Ruger doesn't address that better since most seem to agree that the guns are solid and reliable but also agree that the trigger and ergonomics are a bit lacking. It would seem to me that changing these things wouldn't have to make the gun cost more money either.
 
I am looking at the same 2 p95's eagle 103 is looking at.
The price is tempting. I recall paying a bit more than that back in about 1991 for my new P85. Considering what inflation has done to everything else I can't believe they can still sell a similar gun for that.
 
RUGER = One tuff firearm

RUGER, imoho, makes one tuff firearm. I said firearm, and then some. I have never been let down by one that I owned and took care of myself.

RUGERS in my past and present:

RUGER 10/22 Carbine - past
RUGER 10/22 Stainless Steel w/ Walnut Monte Carlo Stock - Present
RUGER Super RED, SS, 44 mag, w/ BOSH & Lomb scope - Present
RUGER New Black, SS, Bisley, .45 Colt (Get one if you can) - Present
RUGER New Black, SS .45 Colt - past
RUGER P90 in .45 acp. (primary carry for three years) - Past

I know there are others that just do not come to mind right now.
 
I've got a P89 that is has never let me down. It will fire any 9mm shells that I can find. It really likes the Cor-Bons, but they're a little pricey for everyday shooting.

I checked out a P90 today. At one of my regular pawnshops. It was alright, but I don't think the manager liked the fact that the saleskid let me fieldstrip it. Oh well. I didn't end up with the Ruger because we couldn't agree on a price.
 
RUGER = One tuff firearm, BUT I wish

RUGER = One tuff firearm, BUT I wish that they would develope rifles w/ more than a 4 to 10 round mags from RUGER. Even as an aftermarket product coming from them.

I offer that up to RUGER as my observation for my needs. No more, no less.
 
I bought a P89 several years ago and loved it so much that when I decided to add a .45 to my battery, I chose a P90 over a Glock 21 (handled both of them - liked the feel of the Ruger best - Hogue grips do make a big difference, and I highly recommend them.) I appreciate a gun with heft; yes, they are bulky, but I don't own them to use as my primary concealed weapon. (I have a Kahr P9 covert for that). I have had zero problems with my P89; My P90 had some initial feeding problems, but Ruger sent me a new extractor (for free, of course) which solved all of the problems. I have recently been looking at 1911 models, but find it hard to justify spending $700+ for a gun that looks better than my Ruger but won't necessarily out-perform it. Both the P89 and P90 are VERY accurate in my opinion. I like the looks of the new SR9, but haven't shot it.
 
Hey Whirlwind06, I posted here because "stupid me" I thought he actually wanted opinion's, further I didn't start the thread I posted to it. Further still who said anything about Glock except you? Further yet, you seem to have forgotten that Herr Ruger fathered the the magazine capacity restriction portion of the AWB, thus making it IRONIC that his company now produces a 17-shot pistol for general consumption. It would seem to me that you don't appreciate descenting opinions much do you..........And really, what fun is it, and how much do you actually learn when everybody agrees with you all the time...................
 
I really liked the feel of the P89 that I used, and those massive paddle safety/decockers are super-easy to reach. Not a concealment arm by any means.

Denali - Ruger's DEAD. Get over it. Calling him an elitist pig is talking to dead ears - either he's in hell for betraying your tender feelings, or he's in heaven for producing guns which protected the lives of citizens, and your opinion on a DEAD MAN is totally irrelevant. Deal with the tools, not the corpse that fashioned them.
 
I don't think they're underrated. They have a pretty good reputation for reliability and sturdiness. I think their ergonomic defencies get overstated a bit though but that's a pretty individual thing. My P89DC has been 100% reliable. Even though I no longer have a use for it, I can't bring myself to sell it. If nothing else, it could make a great car gun.
 
Check out CDNN. They've got a great deal going on the P95. I've got one, and reliable is the word. I've found I like the standard grips better than with the Hogue wrap, but it all depends on your hand size and personal preference.
 
Yes, they are underrated, but don't let the secret out!!! If you start letting people know how great they are, the cost will go up to where they actually deserve to be!!!!!! SHHHHHHHHHHH
 
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and Bill Ruger is dead!!!!!!

Yeah, but around here he has to be dug up and horsewhipped at least once a week

And while we're dragging dead Gun manufacturers through the mud Samuel Colt was a War Profiteer! :eek:

RFB

P.S. Give the Governor Ha-Rumph!
 
I bought my P85MKII while I was PFC in the army , I wanted to improve qualification score because I barely made it to markmanship level .Ruger cost $225 less than S&W,Beretta,Browning and $125 less than Glock 17 and that the price at the Rod and Gun club on post.Only other affordable one is Taurus but it came with only one magazine and awfully huge grip.

Ruger P85 and P89 are the best 9 mm for the money .
 
All I'm gonna say is I really like my P-944. The trigger took some getting used to but working on learning it has just made me a little better shooter. BTW from what I've been reading over at the Rugerforum lately the P-89 is being discontinued & the P-95 probably will be by the end of the year. I think as Ruger comes out with the new SR guns the P series will go by the wayside. There have been so many of these guns made there will probably not be a shortage of them for a long time. However if you want a new one it might be something to think about.
 
My current Rugers:
Pair of New Vaqueros in .45 LC
SP-101 in .357
Mark III Hunter .22
10/22 .22

May eventually pick up one of the new .327 Magnum SP-101's...will wait and see how the caliber shakes out.

Personally, all the ones I own are first rate FOR ME. I don't care for their semi-auto centerfire offerings as much as others (Glock, Kimber, H&K etc.) But they are solid weapons. The SP-101 isn't quite as smooth as either of my S&W revolvers, but it is every bit as reliable, and at a lower price point. A friend has owned a Ruger 9mm for years and has never had a problem. Just make sure it fits your hand, and that the trigger is acceptable for you. Good luck with the hunt!
 
Absolutely.
The only issue that Ruger has is that nobody will ever accuse them of being "cool". They're like that obvious Christian kid who carried a bible everywhere from back in high school. Earnest, forthright, and 100% dependable but you'll never see a herd of girls knocking down his door for a date to the prom.
 
I have a p89 that is very comfortable as well as a Blackhawk New Model. I have never had a misfire with either. You pull the trigger, they go bang and a little piece of lead or metal comes out really fast. For a paper pucher like myself that's all I need.
 
I have a p89 that is very comfortable as well as a Blackhawk New Model. I have never had a misfire with either. You pull the trigger, they go bang and a little piece of lead or metal comes out really fast. For a paper pucher like myself that's all I need.
 
I just sold the first handgun I ever owned, A P89DC that has been my house gun for 12 years. After buying a number of other pistols I realized a 9mm did not have to be as bulky as the Rugers. When I finally bought a HP clone that fit my hand SO much better, it was time for the Ruger to find a new home. It was like giving up one of my kids, but it's in a better home now.
But, I have a Single Six and a 10/22 that are keepers, because they are well-made and fun to shoot (and because .22s are addictive). And besides, I think gun people are required by law to have at least one of each.
 
I have the following ruger #1 45/70 m77 270 1022 p94 and a 45lc blackhawk I ahe never had a problem with any of them . the only problem i have heard of was from my dad with his super redhawk in 454 because one of the chambers in the cylinder sticks but we put more rounds through it in a year than most will in the time they own it (probally around 5000 rounds ,thank god for reloading ) so I may be bias but i think for the price you cant beat them and they are as reliable as more expencive firearms .
 
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