I'm the one who's not welcoming defeat with open arms.
Joe Kennedy wondered how we could live with Hitler.
Churchill wondered how we could destroy him and his regime utterly.
How do you fare in your debates when you don't use hyperbole and straw men? Because that's about all you bring to the table. So far not one constructive thing. How about answering the question I posed a few replies ago? How do you convince 1/3 of the population who don't much care about guns one way or another that UBC
shouldn't be the law of the land? Because right now, they think it should, along with a huge percentage of gun owners and 100% of anti-gun folks.
There are 330 million souls in the USA. A loose estimate breakdown of stances on guns is something along the lines of:
rabid anti- 30m
don't like-100m
indifferent-120m
own guns-50m
very pro 2A-30m
The first 30m are a lost cause.never gonna vote with us, would rather we just die.
The "don't like" group can sometimes be brought a little bit our way and made to be more accepting of 2A, but rarely do they become pro gun, usually favor more gun control.
The big middle group is the prize. And most of that group, when polled, lands somewhere in the realm of guns are a right and should not be banned but
should have restrictions. They're more easily made pro-2A than group #2, but they're part of group 3 for a reason. They support our right, but have no desire to own or use guns, and really don't care if acquiring guns is a bit less convenient. They also don't care enough to be bothered with any lengthy discourse on the subject, let alone tell their congress critters to vote pro gun.
The 50m in group 4 contains a surprising number of people who would be in group 2 or 3, but they happen to own a gun. This is where we get sideways on believing we have more influence than we do. Roughly 80 million gun owners in this country, but about two thirds of them are no help in the fight.
That leaves roughly 30m of us, around 1/10 of the population, who adamantly and vocally oppose gun control. Representative republic or not, the interests of 1/10 of the population are gonna take a back seat to the other 90%. Luckily we have 2A enshrined in the constitution, which gives us a disproportionate voice in the fight, but with SCOTUS ruling that certain restrictions are well within the constraints of the 2nd amendment, we have to accept that if the extreme majority support such a restriction, it's probably gonna happen. That's the way our system works, doesn't matter how we feel about it.