Arizona to allow concealed weapons without permit

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by Alia Beard Rau - Apr. 16, 2010 03:46 PM
The Arizona Republic

Starting later this summer, U.S. citizens 21 and older can begin carrying a concealed firearm without a permit in Arizona.

Gov. Jan Brewer signed Senate Bill 1108 into law Friday afternoon. It eliminates the requirement for a concealed-carry weapons permit, but does require gun owners to accurately answer if an officer asks them if they are carrying weapon concealed. It also allows officers to temporarily confiscate a weapon while they are talking to an individual, including during a traffic stop.

"I believe strongly in the individual rights
and responsibilities of a free society, and as governor I have pledged a solemn and important oath to protect and defend the Constitution," Brewer said in a news release. "I believe this legislation not only protects the Second Amendment rights of Arizona citizens, but restores those rights as well."

The law goes into effect 90 days after the Legislature adjourns for this session, which could happen in the next couple of weeks.

Arizona joins Vermont and Alaska in not requiring such permits.

"If you want to carry concealed, and you have no criminal history, you are a good guy, you can do it," bill sponsor Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, has said of his bill. "It's a freedom that poses no threat to the public."

National Rifle Association lobbyist Matt Dogali said the new state law would not violate any current federal requirements.

"There is no federal requirement for a permit or lack thereof," Dogali said.

The federal government oversees the background-check program required to purchase a weapon, which will still be required in Arizona in most cases.

Brewer last week did sign a separate law that exempts guns made and kept in Arizona from federal regulation, including background checks.

Arizona had 154,279 active permits as of April 4. Permit holders are spread across all ages, races and counties, but White males older than 30 in Maricopa and Pima counties hold the majority, according to the Arizona Department of Public Safety data.

The permits generated $1.8 million in revenue last fiscal year, according to DPS. The money is used to help cover costs for enforcing laws related to the Highway Patrol, operating the concealed-carry weapon-licensing program and impounding vehicles.

Arizona's permit process will remain in place, and many gun owners may still choose to get a permit. Permits would still be needed in order to carry a weapon into a restaurant or bar that serves alcohol. They would also be needed if an Arizonan wants to carry his or her gun concealed in most other states.

For those who do choose to get a permit, the education requirements do change under the new law. Classes are no longer required to be a set number of hours or include any hands-on use of the weapon. Those who don't get a permit would not be required to get any training or education.

Retired Mesa police officer Dan Furbee runs a business teaching permit and other gun safety classes. He said if most people choose not to get a permit, it will put several hundred Arizona firearms instructors out of business.

"It's going to hurt," he said.

But he said what really concerns him is that the new law will allow people who have had no education about Arizona's laws and no training on the shooting range to carry a concealed gun. The eight-hour class currently required to get a permit includes information on state law and gun safety, as well as requires students to be able to hit a target 14 out of 20 times. Furbee said his class at Mesa-based Ultimate Accessories costs $79, plus $60 for the five-year permit.

"I fully agree that we have a right to keep and bear arms," Furbee said. "But if you are not responsible enough to take a class and learn the laws, you are worse than part of the problem."

He said it's not uncommon for students to walk into his classroom and pull a new gun out of a box with no idea how to hold it and no understanding of the laws surrounding it.

"If you are going to carry a concealed weapon, you should have some kind of training and show that you are at least competent to know how the gun works and be able to hit a target," he said. "You owe the people around you a measure of responsibility."

This new law is the latest of several that have passed over the past year since Brewer took over the office from former Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat.

Napolitano vetoed at least a dozen weapons bills that crossed her desk during her seven years in office, all of which would have loosened gun restrictions. In 2005, Napolitano rejected a bill that would have allowed patrons to carry loaded guns into bars and restaurants. In 2008, she also vetoed a bill that would have allowed people to have a hidden gun in vehicles without a concealed-carry permit.

In January 2009, Napolitano resigned to become U.S. Homeland Security secretary and Republican Secretary of State Brewer became governor.

During her first year in office, Brewer signed a bill allowing loaded guns in bars and restaurants, as well as another that prohibits property owners from banning guns from parking areas, so long as the weapons are kept locked in vehicles.
 
Congrats Arizona Law Abiding Citizens!

Congrats to law abiding citizens in Arizona! I just send a thank you letter to Governor Brewer. I currently live in Alaska where i have enjoyed the same law for many years. It's nice to know the state trusts me as a law abiding citizen and stands up for my constitutional rights. Hopefully soon this will be the norm instead of the exception.

Chicken-Farmer
 
first a great anti-illegal immigration law and now this - What a great state
Yeah that does a lot of good. Illegal persons cook the food in most restaurants and they kill cattle farmers during their migrations. Heck of a law.
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/003355.html

Not to say I'm in any way against the new legislation..I'm all for it. But to say that illegal immigration is under control in AZ is downright fraud.
 
I don't like saying that so-and-so allows you to do something.

I prefer to think of it as Arizona no longer prohibits concealed carry, or requires you to have a permit to do so.

I wish the rest of the states would go this way. Could you imagine the outrage if a person were required to have a permit in order to speak?
 
Alaska,Arizona,Vermont...........three down 47 more to go! To all the naysayers who think there will be blood in the streets because of this law, i say PHHHHTTTT, it didn't happen when the CCW law was passed and it won't happen now.
 
Actually, davepool, I'm impressed that the only "downside" reported in the article was the possible economic impact on firearms instructors. The article was devoid of any of the expected predictions by worry-warts.
 
I was surprised by the article myself given all of the silly retoric we have been subjected to by the local media since this bill was introduced. I understand the concerns of the firearms instructors " My god,now untrained people will be carrying firearms", that scares me too, but i'm tired of sacrificing my liberty as a responsible and experienced gun owner for a few knotheads. The "training" one receives in a CCW class is worthless without practise,practise,practise. I work with three fellows who promptly ran out and bought Beretta 9mms after obama was elected having never owned a firearm in their lives,paid the fees,got fingerprinted,took the CCW class,fired the requisite 20 or so rounds, put the guns away,and have not fired them since. But, they are supposedly trained, licensed,and permitted CCW holders.These guys scare me cause they "think" they will be able to defend themselves in a highly stressful armed confrontation with a bad guy.
Regardless of the law,there will always be stupid people and bad guys who don't obey the law anyway.
 
No, you don't have to be an AZ resident to carry here, any US citizen over 21 that isn't a prohibited possessor is welcome.
Training, I keep smelling that dead red herring - we have recognized the right to carry openly since 1912, and never required training to exercise that right. Our firearm accident rates among adults, according to the CDC, is less that 1/2 of 1%,(1999-2006, ages 18-85), without mandated training. Those accidents among children could be significantly lessened by applying the Arizona Gun Safety Program, as it now exists in law, to the school districts to be mandated to offer as an elective like Drivers Ed.
I love my state. :)
 
Actually, davepool, I'm impressed that the only "downside" reported in the article was the possible economic impact on firearms instructors. The article was devoid of any of the expected predictions by worry-warts.

Firearm instructors will have to work on having a better marketing strategy.

If I could afford one ...
 
I have my permit and fully support this.

Governor Brewer herself even stated in her release that she felt this was RESTORING rights to the people. She's a smart cookie. I sent her a thank you note as well.
 
And it will be nice in 2 to 3 years that we will have one more state to point at and say to the anti-s, "Oh, yes, you are right. Allowing carrying a gun without a permit caused blood to run in the streets! Just look at what happened in Arizona! NOTHING! Except the crime rate went down."
 
I also view it as the next natural step in the restoration of rights. Those who insist that paying for a carry permit allows the government to turn a right into a privilege should pay attention. This is the process that will reverse how our rights have been taken away incrementally for decades. This would not have happened without going through the process of becoming shall issue and showing that it would not cause harm.

This would be another way for Utah to force the Bradys to add even MORE criteria to give us an even LOWER score. We must move on this idea.
 
I "heard" on the news (so it must be based on a true story lol) that the permit holders will still have some extra perks such as only permit holder can CC in a place that serves alcohol and something about parks.

Can anyone elaborate on this?
 
Was a great day here in Arizona when Gov. Brewer signed it into law. Our local state reps here in Mohave County really fought hard to get the bill passed.
 
Parks isn't an issue anymore, she signed a bill that removed the ability of local political subdicisions to restrict guns in parks to CCW permit holders. Anyone may carry openly or concealed with permit in any city park, or concealed without permit once SB1108 becomes law. That was one of the big three pro gun laws she signed, the other being the Arizona Firearms Freedom Act, which she basically said was a warning to fed.gov not to mess with Arizonans Constitutional rights.
 
danez71 said:
I "heard" on the news (so it must be based on a true story lol) that the permit holders will still have some extra perks such as only permit holder can CC in a place that serves alcohol and something about parks.

Can anyone elaborate on this?

Even with the new law, AZ will still issue CCW permits.

Benefits for still having an AZ CCW permit...
1. Being able to conceal carry in states that honor/have reciprocity with AZ.
2. Being able to legally carry conceal in establishments that serve alcohol for consumption (resturants/bars).
3. Exempted from NICS/NICS fees, when transfering firearms from an AZ FFL dealer.
4. Being able to legally carry conceal in gun free school zones.
 
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I already have my CWP but I amstil glad to see the law changed so that all responsible and law abiding citizens may carry concealed. Of course the law does not take affect for 90 days. :cool:
 
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