Assault weapons ban assured

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But that's impossible! The government has more important matters on their hands, and the new administration is pro-gun! :rolleyes:

But seriously, I only have this to say: I told you so!


And if you want to stop this, now's the time to write your congressman, and join the NRA.
 
So far, I have been unable to find anything that substantiates their claims of % of homicides with assault weapons. All of the City of Miami's crime data is corrupt on their website. Can anybody help me? I have trouble believing nearly 1/3 of all homicides in Miami are with "assault weapons."
 
Unfortunately this is what we need to fight against, gentlemen. Buckle down and start writing and protesting, its' going to be a loooong battle.
 
I am not saying don't be prepared, but I just don't think he will have the number of votes for an assault weapon ban this term. If he does get in again, that's when he would try for an assault weapon ban.

That said, I got my NRA membership packet a couple of weeks ago, and I also plan on joining a couple of local groups too.
 
Assault weapons ban assured

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Joe Biden has assured assault weapons ban to Miami Police Chief... watch video...( 2 min long )
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the Congress still has to pass laws and that they are not created at the whim of the Vice President.
 
why not make crime ILLEGAL, and forbid criminals from committing crimes. Lets ban assault criminals!!!
Remember the convention? There was something about "just because you commit a crime, doesn't mean it should ruin your life". In other words, "I don't have the guts to send criminals to jail, even if they are going to kill someone if I don't."

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the Congress still has to pass laws and that they are not created at the whim of the Vice President.
An anti-gun congress, with an anti-gun speaker of the house.
 
CBRGATOR (Post #3), you asked for current stats on crimes committed with assault weapons.

Check the current Annual FBI Report on Crime in the United States, which they present to Congress each year.

They list assault weapons committed in crimes at less than 1%.

Studies of convicts imprisoned for crimes using guns reveal that they favor the same sort of guns the police carry...small, easy to conceal and operate. They avoid assault weapons...large, attention-getting, noisy, more complex to operate, difficult to conceal.

Check the NRA-ILA website for pertinent reference articles and studies...do a site search for what you want.
 
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Posted by benEzra April 18th, 2008, 08:11 AM

By definition, an assault rifle is a selective-fire carbine chambered for an intermediate round.

The gun-control lobby has spent an immense amount of time and money to try to get the public (and even some gun owners) to confuse NFA Title 1 non-automatic carbines like civilian AR-15's and WASR's with NFA Title 2/Class III restricted assault rifles like M16's and actual AK-47's. We don't need to help them confuse people, IMO.


I keep benEzra’s on-point post handy to refer to and get at the heart of the AWB problem:

1. There is no such thing as an ‘assault weapon.’
2. Or, if we agree there is such a thing, they are already banned – there’s no point in banning something already banned.
3. The semi-auto firearms we own are not assault weapons – their cosmetic configuration is meaningless and in no way contributes to their being ‘more dangerous.’

It’s about education – the media and us; it’s about getting involved, and it’s about demanding criminals – not the weapons they happen to use – be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
 
why not instead put the shooters and criminals in jail WHERE THEY BELONG
and leave them there
instead of treading on my right to buy/own these types of weapons since I am NOT a criminal

how about that ?
 
This was one of four anti-gun items on the agenda Obama posted shortly after his election. There's a listing of all four (gunshows, repeal of the Tiahert amendment, and making all guns child-safe) and discussion in one of the last two issues of American Rifleman...I've already given mine away, or I'd tell you which issue.

Eric Holder of anti-2nd Amendment Supreme Court case fame will be the point man on getting these things done if he is confirmed as Attorney General, who will direct and set policy for BATF. See the Activisim section for threads on that...
 
Last time there was an AWB, we had a democratic president, democratic majority in the senate, democratic majority in the house, and an anti gun speaker of the house.

We currently have a democratic president, democratic majority in the senate, democratic majority in the house, and an anti gun speaker of the house.

I dont see why anyone would be surprised when AWB 2.0 is passed.
 
All it takes is one event and the media will make it sound like a war zone. Case in point:

AK47

CNN is running this story like this is happening everywhere all of the time.
 
There is no such thing as an ‘assault weapon.’

That is wrong. The term assault weapon has been defined in the US code. If you look a the last ban, the definition is there.

The rest of the world knows what is meant by the term, even if gun enthusiasts splitting hairs on the internet say they do not.
 
:confused: How exactly would a ban on Ak's keep them off the streets of Miami?

Oh I know, the gangbangers would all turn them in.

Why don't they just ban homicide?


Get ready boys. Get ready.
 
This is the traditional knee jerk reaction. Instead of holding people accountable, they'll just ban everything.

What pisses me off is they refuse to acknowledge that this will not reduce crime. If I'm a criminal, one more law isn't going to change anything. Look at England. They've banned most guns so criminal just turned to killing by knife. Now they're looking at banning knifes. There's another town over there that has wrapped light poles in padding so someone running into them doesn't get hurt.

There's no end to the idiocy.
 
While all of us posting here seem to understand fully the hopolophobe's definition of assault weapons , there are a couple of subtle notation from the 1994 ban--

1. Because of the language in that ban, arguably any firearm that accepts a magazine with a capacity of greater than ten rounds contstitutes an assault weapon.

If you think about that for a minute--well that category now includes any semiauto pistol for which a standard-or optional- capacity magazine exceeds ten rounds.

2. The other semiautos, long or short, fall under the "junk gun" definitions because of the use of polymers.

IMO, the problems involved are not based on definitions; as pointed out by benEzra (and myself, earlier), these bills are to codify legal definitions of firearms, not to expand the standard lexicon of firearms. Gunnies that use the term "assault weapon" do that--that is, they lend credibility to the term simply treating it as a "real" definition, not a political one.

For the topic here, the issue not what what kind of definitions are in the proposed legislation; the real issue is whether or not such legislation expends too much political capital at the time it is introduced.

In short, give the Majority some time to get a roll on, and get the people thanking them--then we'll see the sweeping ban rolled out.

Jim H.
 
Biden wasn't on the video. It was according to the Cheif, and second hand comments.

Still shows what's coming, I'm not surprised. You had to know the day the old ban expired you should have been getting ready for the next ban.
 
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