Attention Buckeyes. Taft Vetos HB347

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Taft vetoed 347 however the Ohio House voted to override the veto this afternoon. It now goes to the Ohio State Senate where we also hope the State Senate will over ride however it will help if you call your State Senator to ask him to override the Taft Veto of HB 347. Follow the links. Tim

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/index.php

http://www.senate.state.oh.us/
To find contact info on your State Senator use the above link. ;)
Make those calls we need your help!!!


FLASH: Taft Vetoes HB347; House overrides Taft 71-21


Today Governor Bob Taft carried out his threat and vetoed HB347, a bill that only the rabid anti-freedom groups oppose. The Ohio House of Representatives responded within hours, overriding the governor's veto by a 71-21 margin.

The Act would make firearms laws uniform throughout the state, something almost every state in our union did long ago because it makes sense and solves problems Ohio's citizens are currently burdened with.

The contents of the veto message are as follows:

“Pursuant to Article II, Section 16 of the Ohio Constitution, which states that the Governor may disapprove any bill, I hereby disapprove of this act and set forth below the reasons for so doing.

“Substitute House Bill 347 exceeds the scope of a concealed carry corrective bill by preempting local gun regulations relating to owning, possessing, purchasing, selling, and transferring firearms and their ammunition. In so doing, the act nullifies many local municipalities’ gun regulations that are more stringent than state law, including the assault weapons bans enacted by the cities of Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, and Toledo. This vast prohibition of local control is unwarranted and fails to consider the differing challenges and circumstances faced by different communities and regions of the State.

“For these reasons, I am vetoing Substitute House Bill 347.”

"Where did this come from? What's the need for this law? ... What's the case for that? I didn't see the case for it," Taft remarked today to the Dayton Daily News.

The language to which Taft now objects has been present in the legislation since its introduction over a year ago. Yet in the weeks before passage of the bill in the House last Spring, he made no mention of preemption among his concerns, which were all addressed by the House and Senate before sending him the bill.

From the Dayton Daily News:

"We've made every reasonable compromise at every step of the way to avoid the veto showdown," said Ken Hanson, legislative chair for the Buckeye Firearms Association.

And from the Toledo Blade:

The Buckeye Firearms Association accused the governor of being inconsistent when defending the home-rule authority of local governments. It suggested he should also veto a bill that he generally supports that is moving through the legislature to increase public access to local records.

“This is an area of home-rule where local government is absolute and cannot be infringed, unlike firearm laws,” said Ken Hanson, the organization’s legislative chairman. “State-level public records laws are a clear infringement on home-rule authority delegated to municipalities to the extent the state dictates to municipalities how to meet, what paper to keep, and who they must give it to.”


HB347 would remove the "plain sight" restriction of carrying in an automobile, something only Ohio laws stipulates. It would also increase the penalties for "failure to notify" a police officer that you are armed during any stop. No other state has such harsh penalties for license holders.

The Governor's veto further illiterates how out of touch he is with the Ohio citizen, and indeed his own party.

Acting about three hours after Governor Taft announced his veto of H.B. 347, the House of Representatives today overrode the Governor's veto by a vote of 71 to 21. The override is expected to move to the Senate this coming Tuesday.

"There was pent-up demand for this bill. I think people were just dying for this thing to go," said the chief of staff for House Speaker Jon A. Husted in the Columbus Dispatch this week.

"We would like to thank Rep. Aslanides, Whip DeWine, Speaker Husted and all others who worked through the process with us," Buckeye Firearms Association Legislative Chair Ken Hanson. "We made every effort to avoid this fight with Governor Taft, but we refuse to ignore his baseless actions. We look forward to the Senate taking similar action quickly."

Ohio Senate President Bill Harris has already told the news media that the votes are there for an override, and Sen. Steve Austria today told the Columbus Dispatch that “I believe we have the votes in the Senate to override. We have a statewide law with regard to gun permits, and I see no way to implement that law without the pre-emption, without causing more chaos within the law itself.”
 
I just called my state senator (Schuler). He had voted yes before.

Pressure needs to be put on Democrat Marc Dann (alleged to be pro-gun and recently defeated anti-gun Betty Montgomery for position of Atty Gen). He missed the first vote due to being in training for his new job. Making sure he returns to help override Taft on this bill would be an excellent way to prove he is pro-gun and to secure a long life in Ohio politics.
 
I find it hard to figure out where the Governor came up with a veto. He has two jobs as the executive where laws are concerned. Make sure it lines up with the Constitution and, only second, double check it represents the "will of the people".

Like 'em or hate 'em, the "will of the people" is the Legislature. As long as the laws they pass meet Constitutional muster all the Executive should do is sign them and then enforce them. Especially when such large majorities are present, it is arrogance for one elected leader to tell a larger group of elected representatives they don't know what their constituents want.

As long as the laws passed meet Constitutional muster.
 
This bill is important. I called all of the state Senators today and my rep. House voted to override Taft's veto today. The Senate vote is very close and could go either way.

Check here for list of who voted what way, and all of their phone numbers:

http://www.ofcc.net/

This bill not only fixes Ohio's visible carry in vehicles law, but voids all local more restrictive laws throughout the state. It makes CC uniform throughout, stops all this local park ban nonsense, and also voids all of the various city "assault weapon" bans.
 
I'm glad that the House has overriden Taft, but will the Senate do the same? If the Senate does override Taft, when will the law go into effect?
 
How Ohio Senators voted on 347 the first time

Here is how the Senators voted this time. As noted though some of the Democrats in the House who voted yes the first time around have now changed their minds post election....:fire:

If you live in Ohio please call your Senator the numbers are below. Tim


Below is how each Ohio senator voted (or didn't vote)
on the original passage of HB347

Please call them! I have. ~Dann

Ohio Senate
District Senator Contact HB347 Vote
1 Wachtman, Lynn (614) 466-8150 Y
2 Gardner, Randy (614) 466-8060 Y
4 Cates, Gary (614) 466-8072 Y
6 Jacobson, Jeff (614) 466-4538 Y
7 Schuler, Robert (614) 466-9737 Y
8 Clancy, Patricia (614) 466-8068 Y
10 Austria, Steve (614) 466-8060 Y
12 Jordan, Jim (614) 466-7662 Y
13 Armbruster, Jeffry (614) 644-7613 Y
14 Niehaus, Tom (614) 466-8082 Y
17 Carey, John (614) 466-8156 Y
18 Grendell, Timothy (614) 644-7718 Y
19 Harris, Bill (614) 466-8086 Y
20 Padgett, Joy (614) 466-8076 Y
22 Amstutz, Ron (614) 466-7505 Y
26 Mumper, Larry (614) 466-8049 Y
27 Coughlin, Kevin (614) 466-4823 Y
29 Schuring, J Kirk (614) 466-0626 Y
31 Hottinger, Jay (614) 466-5838 Y
3 Goodman, David (614) 466-8064 N
5 Roberts, Tom (614) 466-6247 N
9 Kearney, Eric (614) 466-5980 N
11 Fedor, Teresa (614) 466-5204 N
16 Stivers, Steve (614) 466-5981 N
23 Miller, Dale (614) 466-5123 N
24 Spada, Robert (614) 466-8056 N
25 Fingerhet, Eric (614) 466-4583 N
28 Zurz, Kimberly (614) 466-7041 N
33 Hagan, Robert (614) 466-8285 N
15 Miller, Ray (614) 466-5131 Did Not Vote
21 Prentiss, CJ (614) 466-4857 Did Not Vote
30 Wilson, Charles (614) 466-6508 Did Not Vote
32 Dann, Marc (614) 466-7182 Did Not Vote
 
The Time is now.

Henry is correct. Marc Dann was sold to us as a pro gun Democrat. He was not there for the initial vote because he was in a meeting about his transition to Attorney General. He must be in the Senate for the vote next week. I urge all my fellow Buckeyes to call his office on Monday and then call your Senator too. Tim

Dann, Marc (614) 466-7182


Ohio Senate
District Senator Contact HB347 Vote
1 Wachtman, Lynn (614) 466-8150 Y
2 Gardner, Randy (614) 466-8060 Y
4 Cates, Gary (614) 466-8072 Y
6 Jacobson, Jeff (614) 466-4538 Y
7 Schuler, Robert (614) 466-9737 Y
8 Clancy, Patricia (614) 466-8068 Y
10 Austria, Steve (614) 466-8060 Y
12 Jordan, Jim (614) 466-7662 Y
13 Armbruster, Jeffry (614) 644-7613 Y
14 Niehaus, Tom (614) 466-8082 Y
17 Carey, John (614) 466-8156 Y
18 Grendell, Timothy (614) 644-7718 Y
19 Harris, Bill (614) 466-8086 Y
20 Padgett, Joy (614) 466-8076 Y
22 Amstutz, Ron (614) 466-7505 Y
26 Mumper, Larry (614) 466-8049 Y
27 Coughlin, Kevin (614) 466-4823 Y
29 Schuring, J Kirk (614) 466-0626 Y
31 Hottinger, Jay (614) 466-5838 Y
3 Goodman, David (614) 466-8064 N
5 Roberts, Tom (614) 466-6247 N
9 Kearney, Eric (614) 466-5980 N
11 Fedor, Teresa (614) 466-5204 N
16 Stivers, Steve (614) 466-5981 N
23 Miller, Dale (614) 466-5123 N
24 Spada, Robert (614) 466-8056 N
25 Fingerhet, Eric (614) 466-4583 N
28 Zurz, Kimberly (614) 466-7041 N
33 Hagan, Robert (614) 466-8285 N
15 Miller, Ray (614) 466-5131 Did Not Vote
21 Prentiss, CJ (614) 466-4857 Did Not Vote
30 Wilson, Charles (614) 466-6508 Did Not Vote
32 Dann, Marc (614) 466-7182 Did Not Vote
 
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