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Backing off FLRD?

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chris in va

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I've been having some primer ignition issues in my CZ carbine, and I have to wonder if the FLRD is pushing the shoulder back too far. Do I simply back the die out a bit to keep the die off the shoulder, yet still resize the neck and deprime?
 
99% of primer issues is not seating them deeply enough. Check that as well.
 
Have you checked the firing pin protrusion on your gun to make sure it is in spec?

Have you tried comparing a fired case to a FLR'd case? (A case gauge makes that easy)

To answer your question, yes, you can just turn out the FLR die bit to float it. But the more consistent way to do it is to use custom shims/shellholders to give a positive stop at the top of the stroke. When the die is floating, your cases won't get sized to as tight a range. Press flex comes into play, which means the length of your cases will start to vary a tiny bit depending on how hard the brass is and how well you lube it. Also, any increase in wear or slop in the press over time will make your cases grow.

As a rule out step, you don't even need to mess with your die settings. Just use your fired cases. Deprime them with a nail. Take some fired primers, remove the anvil, and hammer out the indent with a nail. Prime some fired cases and some FLR'd cases with these empty primer cups, and see if there's any difference in the indent when you "fire" them. But if your unfired ammo/cases are extracting, the extractor should be holding the case strongly enough for them to fire, even if your headspace is off. Hence, why you're not receiving the answer to the question you are asking. Even if changing your die setting were to solve/mask this problem, it would mean you also have another problem or two.
 
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Although possible, it's probably unlikely the die is oversizing your brass to the point of causing misfires IMO. I would first look at your primers and/or primer seating and firing pin first. FL dies are made to push the brass back to minimum spec, but to cause the problem you describe they would probably need to be out of spec on the small side AND your chamber on the large side of the standard. FL dies are made assuming you are going to size them as much as the die is capable of, and will almost always produce shootable ammo when used that way.

There are reasons to back off the die from resizing cases to minimum spec; longer case life being the primary one. So it is a good and accepted practice to resize only enough to chamber correctly in your rifle...but I think that chance are good that alone will not solve your misfire issue. But it is a possibility.
 
Make sure your primers are being seated fully .....

Back off your die until you feel some resistance closing the bolt ... screw die down until you feel a very slight resistance when closing bolt ... you have to fit your brass to your chamber ... not to everybody else nor to a case gauge ... your chamber may be different than a gauge....

If that does not cure your problem ... check for firing pin problems...
 
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