Bailed Up in Broad Daylight

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Hey Ya'll, i dunno if this is the right place to post this, i looked before i started this so sorry in advance if its not. Ok so im only 17 and i was on my way home from work today broad daylight 2pm and was sat minding my own business at the bus stop and got bailed up by this guy, ( pretty sure he was high on something or other), i wear an akubra hat and he started calling me a rapist because i wear this hat and that im a scum bag and that he would get his local gang-banger mates onto me. Anyway by now ive had this for about 2 minutes, and ill admit im 210lb but ive never had anything like this happen to me so i have no fear in admitting i was scared stiff and im sat at the bus stop and this guys in my face (headbutting distance) eventually he backed off enough so i could stand up to walk away then this guy wanted to fight me so i told him i didnt want any confrontation and i just wanted to go home. i turned around and went back to work in the mall then came out 10 minutes later to see if he got on he bus which he had so i got on mine and came home. But the whole time this is happening im thinking now i know why they have c/c in the US because people feel so much safer and i know im only 17 and i couldnt carry anyway ( i dont think) but this country really needs some sort of law for people to defend themselves i used to feel very safe walking even at night but after today i dont think i'll be doing much of that. So i ask what are your thoughts on what i should have done wheather it be stay and fight or get up and leave as i did.

P.S sorry it was so long winded
Lindsay
 
You did the right thing and, yes, Australia needs to rethink their anti-freedom ways. I'm sure you're not alone feeling as you do. Get involved in the movement and make a difference.
 
You didn't become combative...you kept your cool and wits about you...made your move when you were able to by putting distance between you and him...what else could you do??
You handled it perfectly! Being scared is always a part of the equation..it's what keeps you alive...as long as you use the fear to your advantage.
If you do see him again and he repeats that behavior...be sure to contact the police!
 
Don't ever let anybody get that close to you with that kind of demeanor ever again. At the distance you described, you should have already gouged his eyes out and broken his nose.
 
Hello friends and neighbors // You did great.

I'm always scared/keenly aware when someone around acts confrontational.
Twice as much when it is me they wish to confront.

The best thing is to move away, toward more friendly people/surroundings, and hope a local law enforcement officer takes notice. The best thing you did was go back to work. It sounds as though he might have had local friends so any other direction could have been for the worse.

You might ask co-workers to keep an eye out and call the authorities in case this happens again.

Good luck in the future
 
I agree with the concensus that you did well. You didn't antagonize him, you remained unconfrontaional and you put distance between the two of you....good for you.

I also have to agree with Bovice. Do not let anyone acting like that get that close to you again. When someone acts hostile try to keep your distance and watch their hands. If you have to back up to keep them from getting close do it, if you have no escape route loudly and forcefully tell him to stop and to get back. Try to draw attention to yourself so that others may come to your aid and possibly deter the threat from continuing.

ive never had anything like this happen to me so i have no fear in admitting i was scared stiff
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I'm willing to bet that the guy got the same impression and was feeding off of that. Looking like your a strong confident person who can handle a confrontaion will take you far in staying safe.

You don't have to carry gun to defend yourself, there are plenty of everyday objects that you can carry to help you keep safe. An inkpen, a good knife, or even a small flashlight that fits in your pocket can be used to defend yourself if it comes down to it. Some type of combat sport would most likely help with your confidence. Boxing, Muay Thai, Karate any of these will help give you confidence, strength and the skill to handle yourself.

Sorry about the long post and I'm not trying to lecture, I just identify with your situation from my younger days. Best of luck to you.
 
I hate people like that! the filth of this earth.

Im glad you came out ok, but you never know what can happen. Being the age you are and not being able to carry I would look into non lethal self defnse options. Pepper spray/taser. Whatever it may be.

Of course check the laws, I am not familiar with them in your part of the world.
 
You did wonderfully! Young fellows like you are sometimes short on common sense. So I think you handled it perfectly. Do consider carrying some sort of protection in the future.
 
Bovice said:
Don't ever let anybody get that close to you with that kind of demeanor ever again. At the distance you described, you should have already gouged his eyes out and broken his nose.
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I love blood thirtsy Keyboard Komandos.

You did the right thing. You just should have done it about two minutes sooner. It is better to wait twenty minutes for another bus. It beats spending two hours explaining to the cops why you blinded a guy for yelling at you.

In some places (I don't know about OZ) you have a duty to retreat if you can. If it is possible for you to retreat, and the person hasn't physically assaulted you, it is usually held as the most acceptable action.
 
IMO, you did fine. The only other thing you can do is maintain a strong awareness of your surroundings. Avoid being around people who you think could pose a threat.
 
MikeNice said:
I love blood thirtsy Keyboard Komandos.
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While I get what your saying, I would have to agree that letting him get that close to you for that long is not the way to go about it. I was not there and I don't know what I would have done, but letting someone hostile get that close to you is a poor choice and if that means having to get hostile yourself, well... I rather explain why the guy is "blind for yelling at me" than describing my attacker.
 
Most, including me, will say you probably did the right thing. When I was your age I can't say I would of done the right thing.
17 years old and 210. It'd be nice if you're about 6 ft tall. I'd find a nice Muay Thai or Ju Jitsu gym. After a few years you'll laugh at some fool like this.
It's dangerous out there.
 
An Akubra hat is high quality felt hat made in Australia, traditional with stockmen down under and fairly common here due to reasonable cost and excellent quality. Comes in versions from a classical fedora to 10-gallon western. I have one and am not a rapist.

I agree the OP did the right thing. My martial arts instructor stressed the best way to win a fight is to not have it.

Only recommendation I have is a bit more situational awareness. Keep an eye out for wierdos, maintain distance, be confident, attract attention, tell him to back off.

I think you did good.

Bloodthirsty Keyboard Kommandos, I like it. When I hear that kind of advice on this forum, I picture some 90 pound guy who spends all day playing video games.
 
Thanks very much guys, he was telling me that cowboys were rapists, but like i said he was high as a kite and probably doesnt remember what happened yesterday this morning, i did try Tae Kwon Do but i was always throwing my knee out (used to play a bit of ball sport as a kid and had a few trips and falls on them ) i spose he thought i was a cowboy becasuse i had an akubra on but apart from the hat i didnt have anything else cowboyish on :S ( im as confused as you all are). Those who said Aust needs to rethink its self defense laws, it really does its so true if i had been carrying a pen and stabbed him in the hand i would be the one being charged for assault or worse because he hadnt hit me even though i was acting in S/D and pepper spray and tasers are illegal to start with so thats a dead end there, its so wrong that the law abiding citizen gets treated like a criminal in his own country. Next year i will be applying for a firearms license not that it would do any good out on the street because i cant carry anyway because the law says no you're either a victim or a criminal.

Anyways thanks for your encouraging messages and support guys

Lindsay
 
Sounds like you live in an upside world, parts of the USA are like that also. You did well since you are still here to tell us about it.

I wish you well mate,

Clutch
 
You sure are right clutch. Long gone are the days of being able to legally defend yourself and get away with it. There was one politician in the last election wanted to bring in c/c ( i know it doesnt help me at the moment ) but the government over here are more interested in minute things like reusing waste water from our toilets and showers etc etc it would just be nice if the govt got their act together for a change and did what they have to do with the more minute things and got onto the bigger problems like for example self defense but they would rather sit around and talk about minute things, nothing gets done here and the govt wonders why people get so frustrated because theyre more interested in revenue and how they can make money.

Anyways ill get off my soapbox now

Lindsay
 
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Attempt to locate an object such as a sign or lamp post between you and the person. I've done this a few times and they always leave after blowing off steam. They recognize it as a line not to be crossed. Attempting to negotiate this obstacle puts them in a vulnerable position which you must be resolved to take violent advantage of.
 
I could be wrong, but what I read from Bovice wasn't "You should have attacked him", but rather "Don't let him get that close; if he does - you've lost." Of course, in the middle is the other suggestions, but you don't have to be bloodthirsty to draw blood. Ryder, good advice.

Bloodthirsty Keyboard Kommandos, I like it. When I hear that kind of advice on this forum, I picture some 90 pound guy who spends all day playing video games.
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If you're going to stereotype gamers, stereotype us right. The stereotype is that we are 400 lb. virgins living in our parents basements who do nothing but play video games and troll people. The 90 pound nerd stereotype isn't one who plays video games all day, but plays video games in addition to taking or teaching advanced classes (depending on age), building robots and/or rockets, tinkering with gadgets, and other nerdy things.
 
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