Snake Eyes
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A couple of posts have gotten me thinking again about an issue I've kicked around before.
Marko:
And Mike Irwins sig line:
So I wonder: Why not??
Now, before you jump all over me about alcohol and guns not mixing, understand that I'm not suggesting serving mixed drinks on the firing line.
But why shouldn't we be able to have a beer/cocktail/toddy after we're done shooting? Or something to eat that doesn't come from a vending machine?
In anticipation of the objections, I have prepared these pre-emptive strike arguments:
--No, I wouldn't let any one shoot after they'd had drinks. Even ONE drink.
--Yes, people would try to get around the rules, they already do. I myself have gone to the range after having a few beers. I wasn't drunk and I didn't do anything stupid--other than going to the range after a few beers. If the bar is on the same premises as the range, doesn't that make it easier to control??
--No, I wouldn't allow any guns in the bar. I'd provide lockers to check them, or you could take it out and lock it up in your car.
--All state rules and laws for firearms would apply (like no guns in bars, except in Nevada, etc.)
--Liability. While I'm sure that my insurance company and lawyer would disagree, I just can't see how there would be any more liability than owning a regular bar--and maybe less. I think most gun owners are pretty responsible and would be less likely to cause problems than at some of the dive-bars and pool halls I've been in. Maybe I would restrict the bar to CCW holders. Every CCW holder I've ever met is incredibly paranoid about doing anything that might cost them their CCW (of course, I probably wouldn't sell much booze--the CCW holders would all be 2 and out!).
So--Shoot me down. Tell me why it won't work. Aside from the state refusing to license a bar at a gun range, that is.
I'm really ready to try and do this. Anybody here own a range with some open space? Wanna be partners? Any lawyers want to help fight the state liquor board?
Seriously.
(mods--several legal and ethical questions raised here so I thought this would be the right forum. Feel free to move if I was wrong.)
Marko:
I've been planning my own shop for years now: it will be called "The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms".
It will be a bar combined with a full range and a cigar store/walk-in humidor. Smoking will be permitted everywhere.
And Mike Irwins sig line:
In the immortal words of Dogbert, I dream of a world in which I can buy alcohol, tobacco, and firearms at the same drive-in window, and use them all before I get home from work.
So I wonder: Why not??
Now, before you jump all over me about alcohol and guns not mixing, understand that I'm not suggesting serving mixed drinks on the firing line.
But why shouldn't we be able to have a beer/cocktail/toddy after we're done shooting? Or something to eat that doesn't come from a vending machine?
In anticipation of the objections, I have prepared these pre-emptive strike arguments:
--No, I wouldn't let any one shoot after they'd had drinks. Even ONE drink.
--Yes, people would try to get around the rules, they already do. I myself have gone to the range after having a few beers. I wasn't drunk and I didn't do anything stupid--other than going to the range after a few beers. If the bar is on the same premises as the range, doesn't that make it easier to control??
--No, I wouldn't allow any guns in the bar. I'd provide lockers to check them, or you could take it out and lock it up in your car.
--All state rules and laws for firearms would apply (like no guns in bars, except in Nevada, etc.)
--Liability. While I'm sure that my insurance company and lawyer would disagree, I just can't see how there would be any more liability than owning a regular bar--and maybe less. I think most gun owners are pretty responsible and would be less likely to cause problems than at some of the dive-bars and pool halls I've been in. Maybe I would restrict the bar to CCW holders. Every CCW holder I've ever met is incredibly paranoid about doing anything that might cost them their CCW (of course, I probably wouldn't sell much booze--the CCW holders would all be 2 and out!).
So--Shoot me down. Tell me why it won't work. Aside from the state refusing to license a bar at a gun range, that is.
I'm really ready to try and do this. Anybody here own a range with some open space? Wanna be partners? Any lawyers want to help fight the state liquor board?
Seriously.
(mods--several legal and ethical questions raised here so I thought this would be the right forum. Feel free to move if I was wrong.)