Be a "hoarder" with me!

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Well I suppose it IS about supply and demand. There's been little or no supply, and a high demand. The result? High prices.

Alright guys, have all of us stocked up on everything yet, and if not, are you watching the email alerts from our favorite suppliers and reacting appropriately when you find good deals? I have replaced the little bit of stash I had to dip into the past 6 years and have more now than I did pre-panic. I seep well at night. :evil:
 
I really never saw the 22 ammo thing coming. Thought it would always be there. My lose! Haven't shot a 22 in over a year.

Not by any plan, I bought up a large quantity powder and primers about 4 yrs ago.
 
I was a hoarder (and prepper) before it was cool.
I've always stockpiled when availability was high and prices were low or atleast reasonable and rotated my supply. Never felt the need to panic buy. I just finished a box of large pistol primers last night with a price tag of $10/1k. The ones up next are marked $12.50. I've got enough 500rnd bricks of .22 rimfire that I never limit my use or the granddaughters and most of them were bought for $12-15.
 
Yeah a few years back I started buying .22lr in 500rd boxes. Never thought about it, just got em when I saw em.

I looked in my ammo locker and just kinda smiled the other day, I have like 8K rounds.

Just got lucky on the timing of things.

be prepared, be safe.
 
Fella's;

And it has occurred to me that if we could truly "demand", the supply would increase. Sorta like the IRS's "business model", no?

900F
 
I just learned to stockpile a few items. About 10 pounds of powder, and a couple hundred pounds of lead. I figure 10,000 primers will be enough between small and large in both standard and magnum. I also now have a 10000 rd tin of .177 pellets handy
 
I also did forward looking buying starting in the early 1990's when I worked Part Time at a local gun store/range. I swept and bagged a ton of brass over a year or so. At the same time Slick Willy caused a Primer Shortage and all of us at the store cleaned it out every pay day. The powder was easy to come by. 22LR was flowing right into my storage closet and it still shoots 100% compared to the stuff out on the market now that has lots of misfires. The lead I received for being a RO at many state and regional matches. Just prior to the 2008 elections I took a look at what I had and what I might need. I stocked up on Powder and some really good deals on once fired brass. At the same time I had already tested Social Ammo in my Glocks and found two Internet Bullet Sellers that had cases of what I wanted and I did my best to help their bottom line with free shipping. That said I do not think I will have to buy any ammo to shoot or reload in the next 15-20 years. I did Plan Ahead, especially with the second shortage issue after 2008. I know I am not the only one, but do hear from those that did not plan properly.
 
Hmmm, no see a problem with hoarding? Everybody wants to be a hoarder buying up whatever and whenever ammo and components are available. Has it occurred to anyone that this is what is causing shortages. Does everyone think this is ok? I have a reasonable supply and have a few bricks but I buy them one or two at a time and only when I need more. I would not feel right about buying everything in sight.
 
It's not hoarding. In logistics and supply chain management, we call it safety stock. Safety stock is defined as a level of extra inventory used to mitigate sudden changes in supply and demand. I've chosen to increase my safety stock with ~3-4 months of normal shooting.

Not hoarding, being logistically prudent :)
 
I really never saw the 22 ammo thing coming.
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Heck, who did. When it hit, I was lucky to have about half a case (10 boxes) of my favorite .22 plinking ammo, and then got lucky again and was able to buy another one. So after shooting some, and giving some away, I still have more than half of a case. I am hoping that will hold me until things get back to normal with .22 LR.
 
I think the message has come pretty darn loud and clear for most folks that a pretty, shiny gun is a paperweight without ammo, and that ammo supply is far more fragile than we think.
The goal is to have a lifetime supply; scattered across different hidden locations, if politically necessary.
 
Fella's;

Here's my take on an above post. Hoarding is sitting in Wal-Mart from 5 AM on waiting for the .22 ammo to come out on stocking day. Then buying however much they'll let you buy, or as much as your check book can stand. Even if you don't re-sell, that's hoarding.

What I see from most of the folks here is that they bought when the ammo was indeed plentiful. In other words, the store might have had 10 cases of Federal American Eagle, they bought 5 bricks that day. Next month, they might have shot two bricks, but bought five more. I personally have 100 packs of .22lr marked at $0.99 each, not very many any more, and I don't use much, but at one time I had over a case. That stuff was bought in the 70's I think, usually one or two packs at a time.

Hoarding is depriving somebody else, stockpiling is simply being prudent. How are you hurt by my having ammo from, say, 1997? Or 2007? I'm not buying now, I can't find it. But I've still got ammo to shoot, why don't you?

900F
 
For years I did the "red neck" Christmas and birthday for my sons. A brick of .22s and a box of the currant centerfire pistol for both. Both were in very good shape when all this "slim pickins" problem hit.

I also reload...bet you never guessed that...so we've been ok through most of this.

I try to buy a bit more than I use so the stock grows a little month by month.I like a cushion.

Mark
 
Well as a young gun so to speak I was still using a sippy cup and diapers when Clinton was in office I wasn't as prepared as some of y'all I've stopped shooting .22's all togather not a huge loss as I am a reloader but it has made me rethink my components purchases instead of a gun this year for tax season I'm thinking primers and bullets plus a couple of molds would be the right choice I have enough supplies for now but I could always use more:D
 
For years I have bought at least twice what I planned to shoot and always looked for a deal. I have ammo and components that I have had for 25 years.
 
I suspect that if there is ever any kind of food shortage or national unrest that those same folks who call me a hoarder for having plenty of ammo will call me a hoarder for having food and water in my basement.

I took a chunk of change out of savings years ago and bought 20k .22 rounds. At the time, there were shelves loaded with the stuff. Between bartering and my own shooting, I am around half that number now. I don't see them very often these day but I would still buy every box I could get my hands on.

My experience has been that those who call us hoarders are those who don't know what the word "Prepared" means. I certainly understand the frustration when you see the folks waiting in line at Walmart at 5:00am to buy all of the .22 ammo so they can flip it. That bugs me too but I don't find it immoral. It is a free market and that is how it works. IMO, you either get out of bed at 4:30am and beat them to it or accept that you won't be shooting.
 
While I do not think of myself as a "hoarder", I certainly do not mind it if someone refers to me by that term as I do not consider it pejorative, despite what they may intend ...

... any more than if someone refers to me as a "shooter", even if they say it with a sneer. ;)
 
I can remember when a local gun store had pallet loads of promo .22LR for $69 a case.

Was not all that long ago.

the gun club I belonged to used to get deals by members signing up for bulk ammo, powder, primers, and bullets. A truck would drop off whatever was ordered a couple times a year. We would get in skid loads of the stuff.

I also can remember when you could buy surplus ammo by the crate and the shipping was almost as much as the ammo.
 
Just between Memorial day and the Black Friday sales I bought around 50lb of 22LR ammo at regular pre shortage prices. I did splurge on CCI standard velocity ammo. SV has always been expensive compared to bulk ammo. Before the shortage I was paying $30 to $32 a brick for CCI standard velocity. The rest of the ammo I got is a potpourri. I got 1,000 thunderbolts, 600 rounds of winchester bulk, I have no idea of how much federal auto match ammo at $16 a box. I have more 22LR ammo I can't recall. I also picked up 2,000 rounds of 22 mag ammo for $10 a box. I got all the ammo online, right from the comfort of my couch.
 
With the number of years stuff has been out of stock, you'd thing the manufacturing would just expand at this point.

You can get stuff now though, if you are patient and/or willing to pay a little extra.

I shoot 9mm.. Just buy in bulk when whatever you need becomes available at a reasonable price. I'm normally aware of what component will be my limiting factor at any given time, and then just be on the lookout for that. Right now for me it is primers, I still have a year's supply or more, and some time over the next year I will find them for sale and buy 50lbs worth.

Powder, I was getting under 6 month supply, but finally found some titegroup at powder valley last week, and bought 16lbs, which will keep me going for the next year or more.

Bullets, at least what I shoot, are no longer a problem. So I took the opportunity to up my supply over the last year, and now have a year or more worth.

I actually shoot though.. I'll never be one of those guys 20+ years from now pontificating about how I'm still shooting a sleeve of primers that cost me $130 back in '14. My stuff gets rotated way faster than that.
 
Well then, panic buying is not going to stop. I still think that the shortage is caused to some degree by Government hoarding. Like why do agencies that are not police or military need 30 million rounds of ammo.
 
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