Benelli M1 Super90

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I have a Benelli M1 S90 imported by H&K.... it's smooth, lightweight, and sexy.

The problem? It sits in a safe and while it's too complicated for me to feel confident using in a high stress situation like the Zombie apocalypse.

I'm thinking for a tactical shotgun I would prefer a pistol grip Mossberg 500 for the ambi-safety.
Should I just wait until I have some extra cash, or seriously consider making a trade with the Benelli (although I know it is definitely worth at least 3x the price of the Mossy).
 
1) did I push the little button that connects the feed ramp to the chamber? if not then do so.
2) pull charging handle to chamber
3) take off safe, is it left or right (its left to take off safe, but if i was 1/2 awake it might be hard to remember compared to the Mossy where you just push forward).
4) to take off safe, I must adjust my grip whereas with the Mossy its just push forward.

I know it sounds dumb, but man have you ever been woken up at like 2 AM and realized how uncoordinated one can be?

Compared to Mossberg
1) Hold down button and rack slide (intuitive)
2) Push forward to go off safe (intuitive)

and disassembly is harder on the Benelli. I pulled it out of the safe to be objective, and it does feel REALLY ergonomic - although only having a pistol grip seems like it would be much more versatile for HD.

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I dunno, I figure you'd be better off getting in more practice until you're confident in working the Benelli's controls under stress. Unless you put in the practice it won't get any better with a pump.
 
You're sitting there with one of the finest tactical shotguns made--practice with it.

Read the manual and do the drills--it'll only get better.
 
I had one, if you leave it in patrol mode, and off safe as soon as you rack it it is ready to rock. If there isn't a round in the pipe, it is safe.....that is how mine stayed in the safe ready to go. But, as others said, practice.
 
1) did I push the little button that connects the feed ramp to the chamber? if not then do so.
2) pull charging handle to chamber
3) take off safe, is it left or right (its left to take off safe, but if i was 1/2 awake it might be hard to remember compared to the Mossy where you just push forward).
4) to take off safe, I must adjust my grip whereas with the Mossy its just push forward.

I know it sounds dumb, but man have you ever been woken up at like 2 AM and realized how uncoordinated one can be?

Compared to Mossberg
1) Hold down button and rack slide (intuitive)
2) Push forward to go off safe (intuitive)

and disassembly is harder on the Benelli. I pulled it out of the safe to be objective, and it does feel REALLY ergonomic - although only having a pistol grip seems like it would be much more versatile for HD.
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First off, pistol grip Mossbergs are TERRIBLE because their safety is on the tang. You have to take your whole hand off the grip to manipulate the safety. Next, just keep your chamber loaded on your shotgun and you wont have any problems. Practice with your crossbolt safety and train yourself to use it correctly.

Next I am now sure you made the mistake of having little ones running around the house which precludes you from keeping the chamber loaded. Nothing I can say to correct this problem. Maybe training with the Super 90 from the unloded chamber condition to get it firing this way you will be able to do it when groggy. Most likely this will never occur anyway.

Pistol grip shotguns are terrible to use. Anything with a stock is better than a pistol grip. Learn it, live it, love it.

It is true that the Benelli M1 Super 90 is one of the best defense/tactical shotguns ever. The M2 is weak at best. Use it and love it.

Lastly....

From the sounds of it you are itching to buy a PG Mossberg, so no matter what anyone says here you are going to do it. So do it, and then learn firsthand that the advice you have been given against it is true. I am the same way. Some people have to figure it out for themselves before they understand. You are an owner of one of the best defense shotguns ever made and they dont make them anymore at that.
 
I consider my M1Super90 my primary HD weapon. I have a G17 woth a Glock Light and a Maverick 88 with side saddle and light close at hand. I would use them to "fight" my way to the Benelli. My first pick over the rifles, and I am in a residental section in the county.

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BTW, I removed the pistol grip stock and went with the straight stock. I can load faster because I use my right hand to reload.
 
I put a 26" tubed barrel on my wood stocked M-1 Super 90 and removed the +2 extension. I can re install them in a few minutes for Zombies, in the mean time I use it with #4 steel 3" as a back up to my BB loaded 10 ga BPS for waterfowling..I too was never real happy with the controls and manual of arms for HD, but I am set in my ways...
 
After reading all these posts, I'm going to take the advice of the posters for now and learn the Benelli.

I'm not TERRIBLY inefficient with it mind you.... but it's not the same as my Browning HP that I could strip, assemble, and run a match with in my sleep.... okay, maybe I'm not that good but you get the point.

Question 1: Anyone have some links to useful drills?

Question 2: What choke to use? Right now I prefer improved cylinder because of my strong belief in slugs. In my experience, slugs are much more accurate for field use; whereas one only has a limited amount of control over the pattern of pellets. If I did use buckshot, it would be full choke.... but full choke leaves me unable to use slugs - and in a TEOTWAWKI scenario, versatility could be appreciated.

Until I get more training, I'll keep it in the safe and take it to the range. I'm going to look into classes at my local range as soon as I get some cash (just got a Ruger LCP so I'm broke on fun money).

Right now it's sporting an 18.5" barrel, pistol grip, and standard mag tube. I really need a sling, preferably one that would allow me freedom of movement and the ability to draw a pistol while the weapon was slung.

I have considered putting the surefire forend on it, or getting tritium front sight - but I'm kind of on the fence right now.

I just started doing IPSC with pistols, but eventually I'd like to be try a 3-gun shoot.

The only advantage the pistol grip mossberg seems to have is size.... the main reason I got interested in the M500 is because one of the only guns I don't have in my collection is a large caliber revolver for grizzly bear defense - and a pistol grip M500 slung over the shoulder with 3" slugs seemed a more economical choice.

I also liked the safety because it works the same way as my Stoeger Coach Gun, which strangely enough is my favorite shotgun I own.
 
As far as drills go I recommend classes if possible.

As far as the choke goes, leave the IC in there and use FliteControl type buckshot if you want tight patterns. Full chokes are usually okay with smaller buckshot but tend to throw fliers with the larger stuff, and in any event is still not likely to pattern tighter than the FC stuff out of an IC choke.

Pistol grip only {PGO} shotguns are just all around awkward and require a lot of training to hit anything with beyond bad breath distances, I wouldn't bother going that route.
 
For choke, I went to the range with some buckshot and chokes and choke wrench. Mine patterned best with improved modified, so that's what I use. Different barrels and different brands of shells will pattern differently, so some shooting will be necessary to figure out what works best for you. The good news is that shooting is fun.

It isn't really a complicated design. Get some snap caps and practice. Mine has a full tube, empty chamber, safety off. I rack the bolt and it is ready to go.

As for the pistol grip (with stock) vs standard stock on the M1S90, I've owned both and much prefer the standard stock. I sold my pistol grip stocked M1.

3) take off safe, is it left or right (its left to take off safe, but if i was 1/2 awake it might be hard to remember compared to the Mossy where you just push forward).
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Are you left or right handed? If you are right handed, it isn't hard to remember. The safety is designed for a right handed person, who pulls the trigger with their right index finger. The index finger can quickly move the safety to the off position (left) while on the way to the trigger.

4) to take off safe, I must adjust my grip whereas with the Mossy its just push forward.
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Are you left handed or right handed?
 
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As far as choke tubes, I use the modified for all applications. Buck and slugs are reduced recoil, and #6 bird shot for matches. I get 4" groups with the 1oz slugs at 100 yards, and have used the Benelli out to 150 yards in matches, and the accuracy is very good.
 
My $0.02....

That Benelli is no harder to learn to run than a 1911. Like ALL defensive weapons, it requires time and training.

While a Mossberg with a for real stock is an excellent weapon, so is that Benelli and you have it already.

Burn ammo until it feels like a body part.
 
I am left handed.

The mossberg seems a little lighter weight, and the regular rifle stock seems preferable to the pistol stock.

What is the idea w/ using pistol stocks on "tactical" weapons? On long guns, it seems more ergonomic to have the traditional rifle stock....?

I want a sling that let's me be "hands free" as well. Any suggestion?

Also, are there any good rail systems out there, or is the surefire flashlight a good way to go? I've got a TLR-1 and an EOTech that aren't doing anything right now....
 
http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/ggampg-benelli-single-point-sling-attachment-p-459.html
Takes care of the Single point sling mount- I like Wilderness slings.

http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/n...un-extension-tube-clamp-with-rail-p-1377.html

Although out of stock currently , you get the idea. The TRL-1 is the bomb IMHO and I went BACK to it on my Benelli after trying others. BTW the Sure Fire Benelli foreend is not that great IMHO.

Of course you need an oversized operating handel and a Nordic billet follower if you are gonna go all the way. Yes non PG stocks are better functioning in CQB as is a 1-2" shorter stock, whichBTW is hard to get on a Benelli.
 
What is the idea w/ using pistol stocks on "tactical" weapons? On long guns, it seems more ergonomic to have the traditional rifle stock....?
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For starters, the PG is how you know you ought to pay an additional $800, because it's tactical.

I'd be wary of the Surefire for the M1 S90, get some cases of shells through it first. Rumor has it that the Surefire can kinda sorta cause problems, of the sort that we attribute to Surefires rather than inconsistent shell loadings because shotguns need shells to work, but not Surefires so much.
 
Since the M1 Super90 is recoil operated, adding accessories that add weight can affect the operation reliability. Add stuff slowly and function test each.
 
DougW Since the M1 Super90 is recoil operated, adding accessories that add
weight can affect the operation reliability. Add stuff slowly and function test each.
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Excellent point and it is the reason why I have not added anything to my HK.

I would like a weapon light and a Micro T-1 on my M1S90, but I don't want
to do anything that will have a negative effect on function and accuracy.
 
I have a TLR-1 already and it works great. I just don't have an apparatus to mount it to my Benelli, so it's ony my Glock 21.

as far as adding things to my benelli, I guess tritium front sight and a sling should be sufficient if I want to "tacticalize" it.
 
My Benelli seems pretty simple to use.
Load, charge, take off saftey and your ready to go.

The magazine release button is there to give you the option of changing shot. So you can eject the live shell (say buckshot) and throwing in a different shell (slug). You only use that button to unload the shotgun if you haven't fired.
 
I would like a weapon light and a Micro T-1 on my M1S90, but I don't want
to do anything that will have a negative effect on function and accuracy.
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Try a small weapons light. I've got one on mine, and I ran about 200 shells through it without a problem. Now when I go to the range I take the light off, but I know mine works with one.
 
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