Benelli M1 Super90
- Thread starter SHusky57
- Start date
- Status
earlthegoat2
Member
You can probably take some of that negligent weight off that AK to spread the wealth with your shotgun.
waterhouse
Member
Something like this:
http://www.botachtactical.com/kzuishmatumo.html
Mine isn't this exact model, but it's basically a 1 slot weaver rail that tightens on the mag tube. Then you can take a 1" diameter flashlight, put it in an old 1" scope ring (if you have one laying around), and you are set. I'll try to get some pictures in the morning.
StarDust1
Member
Here's my Benelli M2 tactical sitting with an 870 for comparison. I believe the M2 replaces the M1 in the Benelli lineup. Inertia operated shotguns are very persnickety when it comes to hanging accessories on them. Even the extended mag tubes and sidesaddle shell carrier's can be problematic! I would recomend extensive testing on your rig before relying on it after any tactical conversion are done....
Attachments
fastpat
Member
I have a Surefire Weapon Light on my M1 Super 90 and it functions flawlessly with it. It replaced the OEM fore end completely and fit as indicated on their web site.
I recently upgraded the incandescent bulb/lens assembly with an LED unit, it replaced the entire end of the light unit, new lens and reflector/bulb. That extended the battery life by 350% plus it went from 65 lumens to 80 lumens.
For a tactical or home defense shotgun accessory, the Surefire Weapon light is a very good one, just not low cost.
Last, the first mod I did on the Benelli was to remove the pistol grip stock and add the standard tactical stock.
Next, I'm considering at least a Tritium front sight for it. It's a positive way to locate the end of the weapon in low or no light conditions, and for it's intended purpose.
..."I have a TLR-1 already and it works great. I just don't have an apparatus to mount it to my Benelli, so it's ony my Glock 21."...
likely VERY hard to find now, but in the 90's surefire made a dedicated forearm for the 90 with flashlight mounted inside of front, lower section. was a slick set-up.
gunnie
likely VERY hard to find now, but in the 90's surefire made a dedicated forearm for the 90 with flashlight mounted inside of front, lower section. was a slick set-up.
gunnie
fastpat
Member
The Surefire Benelli weapon light forearm is still in production, fitting late model ('98-99 production approximately) M1's and M2 shotguns. I linked to Surefire above to the page showing the lights.
..."The Surefire Benelli weapon light forearm is still in production, fitting late model ('98-99 production approximately) M1's and M2 shotguns. I linked to Surefire above to the page showing the lights."...
this would be "THE" set-up for the super 90!
gunnie
this would be "THE" set-up for the super 90!
gunnie
Zak Smith
Member
The M1S90/M2S90 is the most popular 3-Gun shotgun by far, for good reason. It's really not hard to learn how to run it efficiently and as second nature.
-z
ETA: Saiga reliability comments are from watching over a dozen people "try to" use them in 3-Gun competitions over the last several years. Way more trouble, marginal benefits.
In my experience, the Saigas are a lot less reliable than the M1/M2S90.
-z
ETA: Saiga reliability comments are from watching over a dozen people "try to" use them in 3-Gun competitions over the last several years. Way more trouble, marginal benefits.
Do you have a S12? I am a huge fan of the Saiga, but reloading on a closed bolt requires one to either install a mag well, reshape the bolt, or practice practice practice and then practice some more. If the OP thinks running the M1 is hard he will not be a fan of the closed bolt reload.
Saiga's are project guns that take work to get dialed in. The vary significantly one gun to the next and I would not count on one out of the box. My guns that I have gotten dialed in run like a top.
My S12 is pretty reliable, the main issue with a mag fed shotgun is the plasic rounds kinda get warped... or oval... that will jam an S12 up like nothing else.
So ammo selection is important.
I also have a gas plug with 5 settings...
And you can load from a closed bolt, but I just push my finger up on the bolt catch and rack the bolt with my weak hand to lock it back then reload.
I have gotten pretty quick at it.
This is it's current config (wifes cat... never mind... )
I have mostly AGP 10rd mags, and one MD 20rd drum for it, all runs quite well.
I have done some tweaking to the shotgun to get it to run perfect, these are built by drunken russians...
So ammo selection is important.
I also have a gas plug with 5 settings...
And you can load from a closed bolt, but I just push my finger up on the bolt catch and rack the bolt with my weak hand to lock it back then reload.
I have gotten pretty quick at it.
This is it's current config (wifes cat... never mind... )
I have mostly AGP 10rd mags, and one MD 20rd drum for it, all runs quite well.
I have done some tweaking to the shotgun to get it to run perfect, these are built by drunken russians...
kwelz
Member
Trust me it is not. Traditional shotgun and rifle grips force the hand and wrist into a very unnatural and weak position.
Thanks, I like it alot.
And yeah it does take a bit of practice, but it's still lots faster than loading the tube.
And there is a last round lock back in the works, they also have magwells available, nice part about that is you loose the front tab on the mag and it works like an AR mag, straight up and down, and that should make loading with a full mag and closed bolt much easier.
MDarms, the guy that made the drum is working on a double stack mag, and a magwell that will work with both the drum and the double stack mags, and hopefully the 12 AGP 10rounder mags I have.
My next three gun match I plan on running the drum to start, and I have 4 clear 10round mags I want to give a go, I doubt I'll need more than one mag change per stage though.
I'm also wanting to get some sort of rail for it one day, I want a forgrip to help me deal with the drum, and I want a flash light for the once a year night matches.
Most of the guys run Benelli M1's, one guy has a M3 I think it was, select pump or auto, pretty cool gun.
And yeah it does take a bit of practice, but it's still lots faster than loading the tube.
And there is a last round lock back in the works, they also have magwells available, nice part about that is you loose the front tab on the mag and it works like an AR mag, straight up and down, and that should make loading with a full mag and closed bolt much easier.
MDarms, the guy that made the drum is working on a double stack mag, and a magwell that will work with both the drum and the double stack mags, and hopefully the 12 AGP 10rounder mags I have.
My next three gun match I plan on running the drum to start, and I have 4 clear 10round mags I want to give a go, I doubt I'll need more than one mag change per stage though.
I'm also wanting to get some sort of rail for it one day, I want a forgrip to help me deal with the drum, and I want a flash light for the once a year night matches.
Most of the guys run Benelli M1's, one guy has a M3 I think it was, select pump or auto, pretty cool gun.
Yes I'm planing on adding a magwell to one of my S12s and if I like it I'll do the others. My major dilema right now is whether to simply buy the JTE mag well or hold out for an MD mag well that will work with a double stack mag. It was not my understanding that the MD magwell would work with a drum (it is hard for me to picture how it could while still being practical). I might be mistaken however. I wish there was a firmer ETA on the MD mag well and/or double stack mags. Also have you heard any figures thrown around in terms of price? I don't doubt cobra will get his LRBHO out but I am not holding my breath for it either. If you have followed the development I am sure you understand why I say that. MD purportedly has an ambi bolt release that is supposed to work with it. Also will the LRBHO work with the double stacks? Who knows.
I will say a mag well, LRBHO, and a bolt release would significant additions to the S12. Double stacks would be icing on the cake.
I have not put the additions up but I just added a VFG and a light to my current project s12. I'll be updating the other thread soon
I am in UT enough that I would be very interested in what 3 gun events are going on. Can I PM you with some questions? I know the saiga puts me in open (and my skills should put me in uber novice) but I am interested in shooting only for fun and to improve my skills.
I will say a mag well, LRBHO, and a bolt release would significant additions to the S12. Double stacks would be icing on the cake.
I have not put the additions up but I just added a VFG and a light to my current project s12. I'll be updating the other thread soon
I am in UT enough that I would be very interested in what 3 gun events are going on. Can I PM you with some questions? I know the saiga puts me in open (and my skills should put me in uber novice) but I am interested in shooting only for fun and to improve my skills.
You can send me a PM, if you want you can email red and get on the mailing list too.
They don't do the three gun stuff as often as the pistol and ICORE due to ammo prices/avail, and I missed the last three gun match due to MSN filtering out most of my gun related stuff...
I worked the filters out finally though.
They don't do the three gun stuff as often as the pistol and ICORE due to ammo prices/avail, and I missed the last three gun match due to MSN filtering out most of my gun related stuff...
I worked the filters out finally though.And I have been up in the air about the magwell, if I had two of these shotguns I would set one up with a magwell, but I like being able to accept any mag, and I'm pretty happy with my method of changing the mags so far.
The biggest issue is the drum, that's my favorite accessory.
The biggest issue is the drum, that's my favorite accessory.
Hank Dodge
Member
I've got an early HK/Benelli from about 1992. Do you think that the Surefire light set-up will work on it? Mine doesn't get used much either I hate to say. That light would go a long way to making it more practical though.
Right now, it's my old Winchester Model '97 riot gun that holds home shotgun duties. It's second nature for me. The short and positive feel of that weapon is great, and it doesn't have any safety or shell blocking buttons to worry about. The Benelli just feels like a plastic toy in comparison.
Right now, it's my old Winchester Model '97 riot gun that holds home shotgun duties. It's second nature for me. The short and positive feel of that weapon is great, and it doesn't have any safety or shell blocking buttons to worry about. The Benelli just feels like a plastic toy in comparison.
Ableskeever
Member
As my old basketball coach taught us, "Practice makes permanent".
As in any sport, how you practice is how you perform. Practice your reaction to an intruder, (gun empty of course). Practice quick loading with distractions (like someone yelling at you or with a timer). Practice the motion of bringing the gun to your shoulder and taking the safety off both in your house (still empty chamber) and at the range/field (be sure to squeeze some shots off).
When I got started shooting clay pigeons outside in a field with a hand thrower, I practiced the motion I would do when bird hunting. You don't walk around with the gun to your shoulder, you have it where you can bring it up quickly, but you are still more comfortable walking. Learn the possible ranges of motion you might have to perform.
fastpat
Member
The bulb upgrade is actually a "end of light unit" upgrade. The entire end of the weapon light is removed and replaced with a new one that contains the LED bulb, reflector, lens, and so forth. Hence it is twice as expensive as the far simpler bulb/reflector changeout that I made on two of my Surefire flashlights. But, for more than 3 times the battery life, it will pay for itself eventually and the light output is higher, yes you order it from Surefire.My local gun shop has the correct M1 Super 90 weapon light in stock
Could you detail the bulb upgrade? Is it available from SureFire? Thanks.
I found it! 617LF LED or 617LFG LED
Nice cat Gibbles
.
Hank Dodge, the fitting of the light is by serial number, I don't know the year of manufacture involved with that. The serial number is listed on the Surefire web site.
The old Winchester 97 (or 1897 if it's old enough) was the top riot gun of it's day. If you shoot it well, it may be your best choice. The Benelli's chief advantage is its speed of cycling, you'd fire the Model 97 once and be half way through cycling the pump action and the Benelli would get off two more shots in that time.
- Status