Beretta 92 vs. Taurus PT92

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If it can happen, it'll happen to me.

I can just see purchasing this gun and 6-weeks from now coming to find-out that there's "tiny micro stress fractures" inside the slide metal or some crazyness...

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Remember - recoil springs need to be changed with frequency - to save the life of the frame and locking block. Changing them every 5k is the recommended amount. I change mine every 3.5-3.75k. They are quite a bit shorter by that point already.

Keeping up with this will greatly lesson any problems with the gun in the future.

In the military - they do not keep round counts on the M9s. They just shoot them until something breaks. There is not a great deal of preventative maintenance on the M(s. When they break - then someone complains and calls it junk. But, the recoil spring was likely never changed - nor was the locking block changed at 20k - more than likely (I would say doing this every 15k is a better plan... Seen way too many stories of them breaking at just a few rounds past the 20k mark over the years).

Change the recoil spring with regularity, and the gun will go a long time.
 
Yes. They are about $35 if you know where to look (last time I checked). I keep a lot of various parts on hand, since i have so many of them. Changing out the trigger bar spring and slide stop spring periodically can also save you a world of hurt.
 
I would have to vote beretta 92fs because mine was dead on accurate and reliable before I foolishly sold it. a buddy of mine had the Taurus and it felt like the same gun in my hands and shot the same. I hear this might be Taurus's best semi auto pistol. always gets lots of praise. nothing wrong with a good knockoff, look at how many 1911's there are ($400-$4000). im one to say if you can get the original then do it. if you really want a revolver look at the m&p R8 by s&w, its on my longterm list


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Does the Beretta 92 Compact only come in double action?
The only one I've seen was a DA .40 Cal with no slide safety...
 
Critical J said:
I can just see purchasing this gun and 6-months from now coming to find-out that there's "tiny micro stress fractures" inside the slide metal or some crazyness...
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Funny you should say that. Might wanna read this THR thread on the Beretta 92FS.

It's a popular pistol that serves countless people very well, but it isn't perfect. I've read about the issue outlined above in a few different places. It may not be "common," but it exists on more than one-in-a-million pistols. Shipwreck might wanna chime in, as he's obviously got above-average experience with the gun.

Also, (and I kinda hate to do this), have you considered the CZ 75B? I know this is quickly approaching five pages without other recommendations (unless I missed something), but it doesn't sound like you're entirely sold on the Beretta 92FS. The CZ 75B is very comparable, and is extremely popular in it's own right. If I'm right, and you aren't committed to anything yet, you ought to do yourself a favor and at least look into the 75B. I've heard or read poor reviews of pistols that cost five times as much - but I've never heard a single bad word about a CZ 75B, or even CZ itself (the company). I can't say that about any other brand, or any other specific gun.

Aesthetics? You be the judge. Lots of people find it attractive, and I have to say I do, too. Obviously YMMV.

I don't own one, BTW. I'd like to, eventually. :p
 
That gun had fired 100k. A Beretta can go way past 20k. Most modern firearms can. However, it is an allow framed gun. A pistol like a Glock can go to 200K... (however, you will have "shot out" the barrel and will need a new barrel way before that point - there have been magazine articles on this).

There has been posts of a guy who went about that many rounds on his competition Vertec 92FS, and then a piece of the frame rail broke.

Bringing this up here in just looking for a problem. This is a non issue. 99.9% of gun owners will NEVER shoot 100k thru their gun.

I don't know how many rounds have been thru the 92FS the other poster talked about - but I would venture to GUESS that it's likely under 5k. Just based on the law of averages. Under 10k for sure.

Put 100k thru any allow framed gun, and you will have had some problems along the way - and many won't make it that far. I don't epect a 92 to even make it to 100k. Some will, some won't...
 
Critical J said:
Does the Beretta 92 Compact only come in double action?
The only one I've seen was a DA .40 Cal with no slide safety...
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No the Compacts are mostly DA/SA just like the full size. I have the new 92FS Compact L/M9A1, and it is DA/SA. Great shooter too.
 
Beretta 92 vs. Taurus PT92

I'll bet there are production runs where the better gun is produced by one or by the other maker. Both are capable of producing very good guns and occassional lemons.

Honestly used guns are a law unto themselves, in the used market between Beretta 92 vs. Taurus PT92, the C9 HiPoint in the corner shelf is the better buy. I have found used guns to be individuals.
 
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OP?

Do you shoot revolvers better because that's about all you've shot? If so, look at some of the other semi-autos mentioned, and don't limit yourself to the Beretta pattern.

There was probably a time when you didn't shoot Revolvers all that well. Practice CAN make you better with any gun (unless it's a piece of crap.)
 
Do you shoot revolvers better because that's about all you've shot? If so, look at some of the other semi-autos mentioned, and don't limit yourself to the Beretta pattern.
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S&W 6946...more like shooting a revolver. No manual safety or de-cocker. Just pull the trigger (same pull each time) and start shooting.

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@ Walt Sherrill

Well, as a child on the farm the only pistol I ever fired was a legit Pacific Theater .45 Colt, belonging to my grandfather - and promptly fractured my thumb in the process. That kinda turned me off to pistols, in general, for a long time while simultaneously fostering a deep appreciation for revolvers. Like most of us here, I like all sorts of guns, but as country folk, never had as much need to delve into the realm of pistols until now. While I always intended to try again with the 1911 platform (see post #53), I've always been attracted to Berettas and I prefer to follow my gut instincts on these things and learn the hard way from potential mistakes, but it's still nice to have second opinions.

I live for stubbornly keeping yesterday's technology alive in the modern world and avoid "latest and greatest" like the plague, usually; Berettas are starting to feel well-seasoned and, like I said, wear those pretty wood handles ssooo well...
 
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Bobson, thanks for the link to that old thread. I think the most interesting thing is agtman still posting the same anti-Beretta "smack" he posted 9 years ago, regardless of the facts.
 
Gameplan

In the end, I think I'm gonna go ahead with this purchase and trade-up for the Beretta 92 Compact whenever one comes available, but they've warned me that waiting on specific models can take time...
 
Gotta love 'em!

Most of our Mexican friends and neighbors in this neck of the woods carry the real "hombre pistolas" like high end 1911's or New Vaqueros, but there's a mariachi kid at this restaurant packin' a stainless Beretta 92 with gold trim and pearl handles that have the Virgin Mary in-layed...

I will likely never be that hardcore,
just gonna have to accept this fact.

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I'm too emotional about the Beretta 92 to offer a rational reply to the OP..

The Taurus 92 is a very good gun, actually an excellent pistol but the Beretta 92 was my service sidearm, is the pistol I lusted after when I was growing up and watching the American action movies of the 80s where the Italian wonder nine was often in the hands of the police superhero....it is the pistol that displaced the iconic 1911 in the US Armed Forces.

Call it the "Mel Gibson - Lethal Weapon" syndrome or whatever.....I would say Beretta 92 all the way, rigorously black with the traditional plastic grip with the Beretta logo.

I honestly recognize its limits nowadays...too big for the cartridge it fires (I also own a 96 anyway chambered for the more robust 40 S&W, ideal for the heft of the pistol), impractical as CCW, the slide mounted safety is not ideal and if you want a pleasant and accurate range toy there are a lot of other better options....but I had to have one.....
 
Bobson wrote,
I just know this is the only gun I've ever heard of that could have this kind of problem. If it was a one-in-a-million thing, I wouldn't mention it. Obviously its not that limited. If I were in the market for a 92FS, I'd like someone to bring my attention to it, even if it's easily prevented.
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I'm not sure we read the same information?

What problem are you referring to, the slide breakage? That was a problem that occurred with earlier versions of the 92 series pistols. That was problem was extremely rare even in those models. Subsequent modifications to the Beretta fixed that problem. I would guess having a slide break and hit you in the face would be virtually impossible with a Beretta 92FS.
 
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What problem are you referring to, the slide breakage? That was a problem that occurred with earlier versions of the 92 series pistols. That was problem was extremely rare even in those models. Subsequent modifications to the Beretta fixed that problem. I would guess having a slide break and hit you in the face would be virtually impossible with a Beretta 92FS.
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Right. I remember reading in the past that some issue existed that could cause the slide to crack. I don't remember reading what the cause of the breakage might be, it was more focused on early identification and repair.

This is a newer (about 3 years old) thread from AR15.com that has a bunch of related pictures. The THR thread I linked yesterday seemed to be about the same thing.
 
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